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Or you have to deny that people in this country illegally is a problem. (I don't agree with that position, but it is a logically valid one.)

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It's a valid position I guess. But having illegal status opens you up to all kinds of exploitation, violence, etc. It'd be hard to argue that this is a good alternative.

So I meant that people could deny that there was any need to control the number of people who entered the country. That is, that there was no need to control the border. But as you point out, that position would probably require you to abolish "illegal" as a status. That is, if you're here, you're just like a citizen.

Or at least "just like a legal permanent resident."

Yeah, that's better.

Not five years ago I uttered that very thought. But more recent events, in Europe for example, utterly demolish the sentiment.

The rate of immigration must be carefully controlled if disaster is to be avoided. You can bake a cake at 350, but nothing good will come of baking it at 3500 (much less 35,000).

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