I think that’s a different question you’re answering though. For sure, continued automation is 100% the modus operandi. I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future IT departments don’t really exist anymore.

But even with “off-the-shelf stuff”, your site reliability engineers would still be using Kubernetes as the primary language to communicate. Or I guess you could go all cutting edge and go one layer up with Istio instead. In that case then, Kubernetes is still there hiding underneath.