Do we know it's actually dumb?
Like, given that you just bought a mixer, perhaps in an absolute sense, you're unlikely to buy a second mixer. But relative to everything else that you might buy, perhaps you are very likely to buy a second mixer!
There are huge financial incentives to get these ads right. I'm more inclined to guess that Amazon is doing something right than that they're leaving money on the table.
Some percentage of people who just bought a mixer will get a product they aren't satisfied with, for whatever reason. That population has a much higher change of buying another mixer than other people. And mixers are probably far more expensive products.
I have no idea if, in an absolute sense, there's more chance you'll buy a cookbook rather than another mixer, but it wouldn't surprise me either way - on the one hand, obviously most people don't need two mixers. On the other hand, plenty of people who buy a mixer will never buy a cookbook in their life, but literally 100% of people who bought a mixer have proven that they were at some recent point in the market for a mixer. I'm not sure which effect wins out here.
Not really. All you have to do is convince companies that machine targeted ads are worth it. Apparently that is orders of magnitudes easier than actually recommending anything relevant.
Which isn't hard to imagine either, there aren't much competition after all. So the primary purpose of targeted ads is that it functions as an imaginary hammer you can use to squash new competition with.
Just bought a mixer, how about: A new set of mixing bowls, alternative whisks and hooks, perhaps a set of measuring cups, a kitchen scale?
Just bought a new smartphone, how about: an external battery, screen protector (that fits the specific model), a fancy charging dock?
It really doesn't seems like it would take much intelligence to create these sets of complementing products and then use them for further ad targeting in the future, you could even use AI and ML to create the sets in the first place so you can fill out your buzzword qouta.
You think "I already have a mixer, idiot!" but in reality the chance that you are interested in buying a mixer just went from 1% to 2%. (Because you want another one, because you want to gift one, because you returned yours, etc.)
The last time I saw an Amazon employee weigh in, he said the ads are in fact not effective but the ad team isn't measuring it well. In particular, he claimed that he showed them that after adjusting for returns, the order-again rate for a particular expensive item was effectively zero, they asked him to repeat his study for another product, and he wandered off and found work to do for his own team.
I'm not sure if put more stock in the government successfully hiding a fake moon landing, or analysts in one of history's most successful companies not running the numbers.
That, I think, hits the nail on the head.
I think it explains the Amazon case quite well. I'm not so sure sure about the YouTube idiocy.
So far it looks just as dumb to me.
I once bought crab meat in a can from an online store (hard to get it any other way in Poland).
A banner for buying more canned crab meat kept haunting me for the next two years, in various internet locations :)
and scarily brilliant at the same time. I was looking up Newtek some time ago of the Amiga Video Toaster fame. Googled Wil Wheaton promo video (Will worked for Newtek :o), Penn Jillette (also promoted it) and finally Kiki Stockhammer (spokesperson). Here is where things get interesting. Google spewed 1997 "How To Have Cybersex On The Internet" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDKEn-TeQg as the result for Kiki haha, why would it do that? Turns out this "instructional video" was made using Video Toaster and features one of the iconic special effect transitions
https://youtu.be/PBDKEn-TeQg?t=9s
here on Toaster demo reel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OVWfmynPw&feature=youtu.be...
so what does it have to do with Kiki Stockhammer? This transition is Kiki doing poses on the green screen. Google search somehow connected this information together and was able to recognize Kiki Stockhammers silhouette on random youtube meme video :o !
This isnt the first time I got image search results that could only happen if Google was analyzing actual image content. Microchip part searches often return pictures of random boards featuring that particular IC despite no bom list in the html, Google is OCRing images and recognizes part numbers. Same with faces, cars etc.
> More recently, people told us they were getting too many similar recommendations, like seeing endless cookie videos after watching just one recipe for snickerdoodles.
I guess we all know this by now, but google doesn't care about your being able to use its products in a reasonable way. In some sense, this makes sense since I bet the overlap of power users and people with ad blockers is pretty high.
Maybe you should speak for yourself? I do not run ad blockers (much less anything targeting Google ads!) and the experience I get as a power user on Google services is no better than anyone else's - although, to be fair, it's not noticeably worse, either. (And mind you, the average ad supplier on the Internet is a hell of a lot shadier than Google, Facebook or any of the big "household name" tech companies!) I'm sure that plenty of other people here can confirm my POV.
Google's trouble engaging with power users as of late is entirely self-inflicted. There's quite simply zero doubt about that.
It always annoys me that giving users options they can control is viewed as complex but search engines that return whatever they deem as important aren't viewed as complex.
What you’re after already exists, the “recently uploaded” section on the home page.
Why not just pause your watch history (or, in case you forget, remove the items after the fact)?
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe
No ads, no direct tracking [1], just videos.
[1] Google can still watch your device downloading videos of course...
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In order to get this new version, you can:
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If I want something new, escape my bubble, I use other platforms like bitchute or peertube. Sometimes it's pretty scary but it's getting better.
Maybe I'd just prefer to get links from friends