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Ad agencies here in NYC sub-contract out work all the time. They are sick of outsourcing to 3rd world. I'd connect with ad agencies in your area see if you can get sub-contract work. And you can charge $1,500-$3k to set up a SquareSpace site. Target dentist, interior designers, yoga studios. Forget the local pizza shop as a customer. If your building with WP then offer support. WP is being updated all the time and with so many plug-ins, who can keep track of that? not the small business owner. Offer monthly support. Just don't offer TXT messaging support , they'll never leave you alone. Bill for your time. Goto your local meet ups and present yourself as an expert. You help grow the small business. If its a restaurant help them with optimizing their yelp listing or bad reviews. What delivery company to use. You need to help with small business's market online with the goal of helping them get more customers and less bad reviews. Help with setting them up with a google business page and reviews, same with FB... a website is only the beginning. Have a goal to have lets say 20 customers who pay you $250/month = $5k. There is mad money out there you just need to up your game and adapt to the needs of the business. They need to make more money get more customers get more positive reviews and less bad reviews. You charge for a small discovery phase like your a doctor diagnosing a business problem , then layout it out for them. Good lucky!

> Forget the local pizza shop as a customer

The local pizza shop's potentially a good customer if you're selling them a way to take orders online and get people to buy their special offers and refer their friends through social media. Plenty of value in that, especially if you're yielding more proven results than those flyers they pay to have printed and delivered every couple of months. If you're selling them a homepage with a picture of a pizza and a phone number then yeah, that's what Wix etc are for.

I take it back. Pizza shop guy needs to know what delivery service to use. The local guy down the block from me uses door-dash, uber eats and needs help with his yelp listing. Just uploading the menu to his yelp. He has no FB page. I explained to him he can take orders , get more customers using his FB page and use FB messenger. You can market this stuff to your local pizza guy. Just a 1 pager with Location, Menu, yelp links and an about us ( People love a good story) But the damn pizza has to be good. We have 50 pizza shops in a 1 mile radius.

Actually, you can do a lot more with Wix Code, and make a site with all kind of custom functionality, including 'a way to take orders online and get people to buy their special offers and refer their friends through social media'.

But to use Wix Code, you will need to know some level of coding, hence value to sell for your clients.

And I agree, there is a huge market for people to build websites for customers, you need to focus on the value you deliver to your customers, from design all the way to coding, SEO, content and social.

You can do that but the pizza guy may not know how to manage it. So the game has changed from making a static site to making a site and then figuring out how to make the pizza guy more money , get him more customers. Google business page optimization just basic stuff and then yelp listing. Just make sure the address is correct and no spelling errors. You put him on a subscription and meet him once a month to go over value , you become his digital media expert. You then ask him to promote you to his customers. I get free pizza , pasta from the pizza guy. Just for talking about this stuff with him. You can charge for it.

Here in Texas, http://www.whatismavn.com/ has made a pretty good business out of this. Although, I believe they had to also integrate with existing PointOFSale systems or implement some hardware in order to offer online ordering. Nice niche market though, and I have nothing but praise as a buyer of food through their customers.

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