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Yeah, they plan to have hundreds of systems. Now they have one planet and a few moons and not even that is finished.

What is the time frame here? Decades? I mean seriously, why is anyone believing this?

Yes, decades. I expect they will maintain this game forever. I don’t see them dropping it and starting a new property, and I don’t see them releasing a 2.0 universe. They will just keep adding and improving the SC universe as long as people keep buying ships.

Actually, I think there’s a 50/50 chance SC becomes one of the first permanent 24/7 habitable VR universes. Where people live and work full time. A full economy, elections, etc.

Obviously that’s decades away, but who else is building anything equivalent? Facebook is taking the approach of giving us mini VR apps, and hoping a universe will evolve from that. Cloud Imperium is taking the opposite direction, building a “Sim Universe” first and adding “apps” as needed.

I’m not sure which is the better approach... which is harder, building a fully fleshed out simulated universe or building out the killer apps of VR interaction?

Actually I think they’re probably about equally hard, and each side will just copy what the other did to complete the picture. But CI and FB are both well positioned to capture a slice of the fulltime VR market when it emerges in the late 2020s.

I'll eat a sock if this mess becomes anything even close to what you expect it to be. Considering the rumors that they've used up over 90% of the money last year already, I can't imagine what this company will become in a few years.

> I’m not sure which is the better approach...

Really? How about a stable foundation for something like a permanent universe? How about a management that is capable and how about a serious, viable business model?

Instead the business model is the worse of the new lootbox-generation of games, the management is a highly questionable dictator with a terrible history of managing teams and his wife. The foundation never was properly stable for anything of the scale it is in now. Not even speaking about a functioning MMO. And of course there is no native support for VR there...it may come...like female characters...

I mean man, come on... The visions some people have of this game are so far away from justified, it has all the signs of a unhealthy cult.

FYI: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7SIP0NDfM2yyHKfRmCAo...

Remember how the same kind of runaway imagination ended with the release of No Man’s Sky? If I were at CIG, I’d be really worried about the psychotic hate that could come my way when this all collapses, or just fails to meet the incredibly overblown expectations of fans, nurtured by CIG itself.

I'm sure they'll have some story for them moment when it fails. My bet is: Roberts will blame it on those investors he obviously started collecting now (if they don't remove him by then). And for the rest: yeah, some will be pissed. The rest will keep justifying. They've been doing it for years and many did grow up with it. I mean, this thing is going for a few years already.

The rest will keep on laughing...

Edit: regarding delusional artists https://wccftech.com/roberts-squadron-42-above-god-of-war/

I don't follow the development of this game but I can imagine they have plans to allow user-generated content to be added to the game through some kind of system. And if they don't have plans, they should.

They have a plan for users to buy content. And yes, you can buy news-ships for some game mechanic that is not even in pre-alpha.

The only time there was talk about user-generated content was when they had a "design a ship"-contest. Designer teams jumped on it, designed a ship that you could visit in the hangar instance but it's gone now...because they needed to rework things there. I wonder what because that ship was never playable....This is SC for you.

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