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Pretty much nothing in Germany is conservative by US standards.

The laws around business (and noise) on Sunday’s seem very traditional. A lot of US conservatives would love to bring that back.

The AfD is our „Trump party.“

They are. But even they wouldn't ban abortion, charge for universities or massively cut down on social welfare or allow anyone to buy assault rifles, right?

Actually they argued e.g. for removing the unemployment insureance.

No, but just like Trump wouldn't condemn Neo-Nazis, these are the people they "happen to" end up alongside with sometimes:

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/chemnitz-chronologie-der-a...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_ZdP79O84&t=2m

Hooligans salute Hitler, AfD supporters and "concerned citizens" go "tee-hee, how bold". That's the AfD, and that's what matters.

edit: oh, and the harmless image that's spread here on HN, combined with silent downvotes, that's just great. If you don't want a response, don't belittle a party you apparently know nothing about, in a country you don't even speak the language of.

Hey, they may be nationalists, but they are socialists too ;)

Yes, that is right. Although there is this wing in the party, too. The libertarian wing (Alice Weidel) as well as the christian fundamentalist (Beatrix von Storch).

In a number of positions even the AfD is left of the American political mainstream.

I love HN because we can keep politics pretty much out. This comment is not helping to preserve that culture.

What do you want to discuss here, then? What could you be interested in about this story if politics is a no go for you?

> And it came out by a US border militia report. I count the hours till it will be picked up by the US political system. DER SPIEGEL is not exactly a conservative magazine.

This observation is true, it's also important -- the very story itself is political, in just the kind of stories that were fabricated. Or maybe the list is cherry picked I don't know, but going by what I see, politics is already part and parcel of this anyway.

If people then on top of that make observations about a country they don't seem to really know much about, I think it's fair enough to correct them. To say nothing is conservative in Germany compared to US standards is like saying in Japan, all people love cartoons, and watch cartoons instead of reading books.

AfD policies would be considered as "too liberal" by the core Trump supporters. After all, the leader of their party is a woman, that lives in foreign country, married to another woman, that is south asian.

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