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He's talented, let's pretend all the real shitty stuff he did never existed. It's settled guys...

> You can't fall as far as Levandowsky did without first climbing pretty high.

Yes, you can't fall as far as he did through discovery of theft and lies without first climbing very high by theft and lies.

I mean, we're kind of wandering off the main thread of things but in principle you can if you climb high by other means and are separately engaged (before or after your climb) in theft and lies.

You can climb and fall through completely different means, but in those cases, the fall usually doesn't invalidate the climb. People weren't dismissing ReiserFS because of its author's other actions.

Fair.

I’d agree, he’s quite insightful and a very creative engineer that is quite rare and few can match, sadly he also has a Gordon Gecko side too.

Can we apply this logic to Mo Zedong, so that he can be named the one of the greatest person of the 20st century?