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I'm using the latest Chrome on Windows 10.

Gallery of the 3 levels => https://imgur.com/a/xPTralG

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I get it now. Triangles, Chevrons, and whatnot.

The sidebar is required to go to the side menu.

But I spend every day in Maps and it was never obvious to me.

I wanted to screen cap the year ago Maps api layer selector where it was Satellite and Map then with the Map option of terrain.

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To modeless:

Click something in the sidebar... that revels another sidebar...

Back to UX how am I going to know that clicking "Globe" is a toggle state like a checkbox? (https://i.imgur.com/rvLdzM8.png)

I've been using Google Maps for years, I preach it. These things make me feel like a heathen.

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The search box with hamburger menu is visible by default. You deliberately hid it to get to the state in your screenshot. It is two clicks to disable 3D from the default state. This is entirely reasonable.

Click something in the sidebar... that revels another sidebar...

Back to UX how am I going to know that clicking "Globe" is a toggle state like a checkbox? (https://i.imgur.com/rvLdzM8.png)

I've been using Google Maps for years, I preach it. These things make me feel like a heathen.

THANK YOU for pointing that out. I've also become extremely frustrated at the way the Google Maps UI has evolved. I also had no idea that 'globe' was toggleable. Particularly because there's a "3d" toggle over on the other side of the screen, which just does a silly rotation rather than actually toggle the map between flat/globe...

You do realize that I myself, and many people I know, do not even try to learn "two clicks deep" anymore.

Why?

Because in 6 months there will be another phone, another product, a redesign, to "freshen up" styles, and everything we expended effort to dig out from even one click (or tap) below the surface is upended, and moved somewhere else, because of territorial pissings and careers behind the curtains.

User Interface experiences actually haven't improved since 1999. It's really just that the best parts of that era have withstood the test of time, and remained constant.

People come in with amnesia and make the same old mistakes over and over again, and we're forced to unlearn and relearn nested menu trees because popularity contests must be won.

Case in point:

> Google still has a minus operator for exclusions, but the plus operator was destroyed in the name of Google+

And just like the headphone jack on iPhones, we’ll never get it back because to admit error is to court liability and damages in the corporate context, and smells like a recall to suits and share holders.

User Interface experiences actually haven't improved since 1991 when RISC OS 3.0 came out

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