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the US has already been doing this stuff for a long time, without it being legal. They can always pressure you and threaten to ruin any engineer's life if they don't do what they want. and who do you think came up with this legislation? It's US Intelligence. Australia is their testing lab, just like Macca's does.

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Apple stared down the FBI in a mass murder case, because it was possible for them to do so. They won't be able to do that in Australia.

I don't like the US shonkiness any more than anyone else. But these situations are not precisely equivalent, especially since this bill passed.

I don't see how it's any different to the situations with NSLs in the US. There's a veil of secrecy and no real limits on the scope of request with very harsh penalties for non-compliance.

The US government ignores their laws, while Australia passes terrible ones.

Six of one, half dozen of the other.

> The US government ignores their laws

and yet

> Apple stared down the FBI in a mass murder case, because it was [legally] possible for them to do so.

The US government couldn't make Apple help them in public, but they just spy on everything they can themselves behind closed doors.

So far we haven't seen the Australian government ignore its own laws so completely.

Could the downvoter please explain why, or educate themselves about Edward Snowden?

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