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It's one thing Huawei's products have severe vulnerabilities (as every other IT companies do), and another thing the company is actively engaging in espionage.

If this is the best hard evidence the US can bring forward, then the whole allegation sounds entirely political-driven.

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If you can't tell, does it matter? If you're hoping for espionage to be obvious and blatant, I think you must be underestimating people's creativity.

Then we shouldn't deal with Cisco, Juniper, and pretty much every other network equipment manufacturer.

What kind of logic is that?

Trust is not binary.

I fail to see how this ties into your original point.

It's this kind of logic: it depends on whether you believe the US is as big of a security or IP-theft threat to you as China is. Your premise relies on the US == China. If that isn't the case, your premise collapses in one form or another.

Taiwan, Japan and South Korea aren't afraid of the US. They are afraid of China.

Finland, Romania, Poland, Ukraine and Estonia aren't afraid the US will invade and annex their territory. They are afraid of Russia's territorial ambitions in Eastern Europe.

For example, how do you think Australia feels about it right now?

"China’s peak security agency has directed a surge in cyber attacks on Australian companies over the past year, breaching an agreement struck between Premier Li Keqiang and former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to not steal each other’s commercial secrets."

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/china-uses-the-clo...

"China reportedly steps up efforts to steal Australian company secrets"

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/21/cybersecurity-china-reported...

All I and others are asking for is some hard evidence. Either the company is engaged in unsavory behavior or it is not. You can't be ambiguous about this and expect people to play along.

Given how easy it should be for a capable government like the US to find something like this (especially given how common huawei gear is) and how "friendly" the US has been with China, I would expect to have seen at least some evidence surface by now. In fact, I would take the lack of evidence as a testimony to the innocence of huawei and the security of their hardware.

In saner times, the US government would put forward evidence and experts in an open hearing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(ACR-1)#Investigat...

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