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> the new model comes with the latest-generation edition of Apple's "butterfly" keyboard

Maybe it was naive of me but I had high hopes Apple would use the Air refresh as an upgrade path for those of us who have decided they need a keyboard with more travel and reliability beyond a few months.

(I use a 2017 butterfly keyboard today, never again)

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Any info on whether the 2018 keyboard update fares much better [1]? I’m seriously considering buying this MBA, but I’m happy with the travel and durability on my 2011 MBA keyboard and primarily spooked by the butterfly keyboard complaints.

[1] https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/macbook-pro/#keyboard

I had a lot of problems with my 2016 keyboard (repaired four times and getting ready for a fifth when it took an unplanned drink of water).

I now have a 2018 MBP and the keyboard is really reliable and actually pretty great.

I recently got a 2018 for work and I'm enjoying the keyboard. I like clicky keyboards with low travel, I think it makes touch typing easier and I have to move my fingers up and down less. After going back to my 2015, the keys on the older one feel mushy and not as clicky, and I tend to drag my fingertips across the tops of the keys because they have more travel.

I never used a 2016/2017 keyboard though so I can only compare 2018 to 2015, and I like the 2018.

The 2018 keyboard is much better than 2017 and feels nicer to type on. I have both right now and the 2018 seems improved but still not as good as the old keyboards

I have a 2018 butterfly keyboard and it's acceptable. Not as good as the pre-butterfly keyboards, but no sticking keys yet.

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