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It might also help to know Kay has said the Internet is a good example of "Real OOP": A system made up of other systems sending messages that are "desires", not commands. (paraphrasing)

(He has also been quite humble. He claims his own original ideas aren't very good and all the best stuff came from others. On Smalltalk, he also mentions Dan Ingalls did most of the work while Kay only did the mathematics.)

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> the Internet is a good example of "Real OOP": A system made up of other systems sending messages that are "desires", not commands.

Or: OOP is what you get when you take the necessary programming model required at the software level, to get two hardware devices that don't trust each-other's engineering to successfully exchange data (like, say, a computer in a public library, and your smartphone that you've just plugged into it over USB), and then try to shrink it down as far as it'll go, while still retaining the ability to represent and handle every potential failure-mode of the original exchange.

It's funny because he keeps ranting about how things are so subpar. It can appear un-humble at times.

What if things really are subpar and you simply don't have the frame of reference to see it?

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