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You are just digging your grave deeper here. Don't assume high testosterone = must be a blue collar worker or sumpin. That's basically classist BS.

Pushing code because it is one of the highest paid professions in the world right now and exercises real power could be construed as aggressive as hell on the face of it. There's a reason people bitch about "brogrammer" culture. Even if you ignore that, desk jockeys aren't all sedentary losers. Plenty are buff and pursue Manly Man (TM) activities in their off hours, like sports, martial arts, etc.

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OP said

> They tend to be more nerdy, introverted, and less masculine(lower testosterone, less aggressive).

and

> Testosterone is linked with higher levels of aggression. Anyone who is employed to write code and work with computers works a sedentary job.

> I don't think it is a ridiculous notion that your average Googler will be nerdier or smarter than the average man. And I hope that just because "low-testosterone" is used as an insult by alt-right losers, you don't associate me with that group or characterize my comment as troll-y.

At no point did OP say:

> Don't assume high testosterone = must be a blue collar worker or sumpin.

Your statement isn't even the inverse of OP's statement. The only one that said that is you.

> Testosterone is linked with higher levels of aggression. Anyone who is employed to write code and work with computers works a sedentary job

How is it unreasonable to infer from this that "Obviously, high testosterone guys must work physical jobs" (often called blue collar jobs)? What jobs should I infer are the opposite of sedentary?

How is it reasonable TO infer that? If the claim is that sedentary jobs lower testosterone, it does not follow that non-sedentary jobs raise testosterone. If A => B, the statement NOT A => NOT B is not necessarily true. That's just rudimentary logic.

My question is "What's the opposite of a sedentary job? Is it or is it not a physical job, AKA a blue collar job?"

I do not see where OP said sedentary jobs lower testosterone. I do not see any statement clarifying the exact nature of the presumed relationship between testosterone levels and job type.

Perhaps I missed that?

You are the only one who has associated a sedentary job with being a loser or a blue class job with high testosterone. I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth.

You seem to be misconstruing a "tendency" for an "absolute blanket on all"

I didn't use the word loser.

> Even if you ignore that, desk jockeys aren't all sedentary losers

You're right. You used the word "loserS"

My bad. I guess I did.

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