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>Even as a muslim myself, I feel like sharia finance is a step backwards.

Are you an actual muslim or just by name. Don't invalidate your eemaan by saying Islam is inferior to man-made system. Even if you don't like the mufti and scholars, they've done the ijtihad based on the Quran and Sunnah for the best of muslims, and they are the responsible ones, not you.

I don't know your intent but, Be EXTRA careful with your words.

Remember hadeeth where at the end of times, people are muslims in the day but kaafirs in the evening.

Your choice of words matter.

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> Are you an actual muslim or just by name.

Neat, I've never seen a No True Muslim fallacy before.

Never heard of Sunnis, Shiites, Allevites, Ahmadiyya? There are probably others I'm forgetting.

You know what, I honestly hadn't really thought about schisms and Scotsman fallacy being as equivalent before. I've been slightly enlightened.

Is this an accusation of takfir? Do you have evidence for this accusation? Or is it just that you find it easier to impugn a brother Muslim's practice than to argue the facts? (I'll bet you're really fun at parties.)

I’m not a Muslim, and this comment is very interesting. Do you mind explaining what you mean?

OP (Mengkudulangsat ) expressed problems with sharia finance in terms of investing fundamentals (risk, complexity, etc.).

stealthcat objected to OP raising these points and appealed to authority (variously, Islamic leaders/theologians, foundational religious texts, and God). stealthcat questioned OP's intentions and religious commitment, implying he might not be a Real Muslim(TM) and exhorting him to defend orthodox teachings.

To stealthcat, I would challenge him to consider that many religions are plagued by convoluted rules, to which people come up with hokey workarounds. Orthodox Jews have sabbat elevators; Amish use pay telephones; Sikhs have kirpans (knives) that are impossible to unholster. projectramo's comment about sharia finance obfuscating the principle of interest seems very on-point here.

Fantastic, thank you for for the explanation.

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