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Spotify still has a limit of 10.000 saved items. An album with 10 songs counts for 11 (10 song entries and 1 album entry). Meanwhile you can create 10.000 playlists with 10.000 songs no problem. So the saved items is obviously a very crappy (database?) design and they still refuse to fix it.

Very glad I have Apple Music now...

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That is a strange issue. I have all of my music (sans the few tracks not on Spotify anymore) saved in a Starred playlist which I started 7 years ago when Spotify saved music via "stars." Even there though, I only have 7K tracks - how do you have 10k?!

I also have a lot of saved music as I tend to save whole albums instead of tracks. If I find an artist I like and want to listen to later, I'll often save their most popular album to come back to. It all adds up pretty quickly.

I also hit this limit on Spotify. The super frustrating part to me was that it appeared to save your songs, but didn't. They would be starred until you left the page and came back.

I swapped to Google play music, though. They like to re-upload / move albums around and automatically remove them from my lists without telling me. Not particularly thrilled about that, either.

I hit that limit when I tried to import my Rdio collection and, similarly, switched to Apple Music. The Spotify UI is pretty awful for browsing a big list of albums, too.

How does a saved item differ from a non-saved item? Is it equivalent to "downloaded"?

No. Saved means it appears when you browse to "My Library".

That is very odd. Why limit that at all?

With 10+ years experiencing designing software, my motto is to limit everything and then test at those limits. If you're not limiting things because "why limit this?", then you're going to run into some unhappy conditions in production (and once a user has added 1m songs, it would suck to just delete them out from under them).

Also, you can always raise the limit later if it really matters..

but the problem with Spotify is that they have not touched this arbitrary limit, there's no option to increase limits, and this has been this way since 2012, so it is by design.

And quite frankly, from a Software perspective, 10k entries in a database as a limit in 2018 feels small... especially when you consider how many people even listen to 10k entries in the first place. most have no clue about this arbitrary limit because they never hit it.

All I'm saying is that changing 10k to 100k is a significant difference in terms of music, and doesn't feel like it should be a significant difference in terms of data storage.

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