This is the same line of already-refuted reasoning behind the "I'm just asking questions" in the infamous Google Memo.
To answer my original, rhetorical, question: It's not cynical. It's wrong.
This is the same line of already-refuted reasoning behind the "I'm just asking questions" in the infamous Google Memo.
To answer my original, rhetorical, question: It's not cynical. It's wrong.
[0] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/computer-programmi...
What about citations proving that "software engineering when it was considered a low-class low-skill job" is the same profession as the programming in the past 30years. Or at least that it has the same difficulty / processes.
Btw usage of phrases like "clear history", "so much evidence" (especially when you cite one(!) arguable data point), "already-refuted" does not convince anyone about you being right. It is at best annoying.
From what I've seen this is standard assumption by ordinary people. And it does not target only programming, any office job that involves "sitting at the computer all day" gets that reputation.
And that easily could have not been the case in the 50's (I really don't know). And the profession has clearly evolved (anecdotally: many think it has gotten worse). So your assumptions are really not that obvious. Sorry if that comes accross to you as "arguing in bad faith".
Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? You're not engaging with my points in any meaningful way. Can we be done with this thread?
You are not engaging in debate in any meaningful way, maybe stop arguing on HN? You are not convincing anyone . . .