The company has rotted.
The company has rotted.
I heard employees quit when G merged the YT with "real name" accounts.
Personally I've had a real pain getting support for android development. Wrong and misleading documentation, rude forum moderators, no way to report a bug (they have a bug where Payments page will show errors -- in Incognito Chrome) -- on the admob site. Solution was to sign up for Adwords (how could I tell?) and check the page in Safari or sign into Adwords on Chrome. Shit documentation. Help your developers earn you money better, Google. And stop changing your UI. It looks like they have low-tier coders who get hired with not enough power to rock the boat so they roll out a UI re-vamp no one wants without bothering to fix systemic problems that repeatedly kill products, break products and have a completely INSULTING policy towards their developers. Admob: "You can't even complain to us without earning enough money.. here's a phone number.. it literally never connects." Why even bother? I interpret that they hate me. The feeling is mutual.
> And stop changing your UI. It
The Youtube UI just gets worse and worse. I can only imagine what it must be like for non-Youtube Red subscribers. The add playlist button now defaults to your last playlist, which for me 75% of the time is not the playlist I want. Then I have to wait a few seconds for a popup, click a button, then unselect the last playlist and tick a new playlist. Just to add a f'ing video to a playlist.
Its such a vile POS of a service.
Its hardly even worth my packets to type out all the ways its so bad. I feel like nobody in charge of YouTube actually even uses it for anything.
newsblur let's you organise things into subfolders too which is helpful
the other thing in going to start using is youtube-dl to download my watch later videos and then use something like emby or plex to watch them. maybe do the same with videos that I want to keep so I don't have to worry about then disappearing every second day
Movies are better served elsewhere, but there is a lot of things that you just can't find elsewhere.
But given that VLC can open a youtube link and yt-dl can grab most content, I'd love to build an app that has a proper UX.
I keep designing one in my mind - I should get around to at least proposing it to see what others think
I've seen such videos transform into [video removed] in custom playlists (which is infuriating to no end, you can't even know what the video was about to look it up somewhere else), maybe it causes videos to disappear from Watch Later entirely.
You can hold the button down ("long press") to get the playlist list instead of waiting for the popup to appear and pressing the button. It is of course still worse than it was before.
Problem is that it defaults to the last playlist I added to, making it unpredictable and inconsistent. It might make more sense if it always defaulted to "Watch Later" but still prompted to change it.
I only have around 5 playlists anyway (basically variants of "Watch Later" but sorted into vague categories).
There are a few glitches, but nothing you can't live with.
I'm not alone in this; others have made far more polished applications like https://github.com/mps-youtube/mps-youtube
Not to say Google isn't evil because they certainly seem to be headed to hell while holding us in a hand basket, but this one is legit.
Just to be completely fair, there's a balance to be had. I think Googlers are a very passionate group about many issues. That doesn't mean they know what's best for the company or the world.
If Googlers lead Google's business decisions, I think it would be a worse place. Firstly, developers are often very blind to privacy issues left on their own. Well-intentioned developers can cause a lot of trouble, as you can see from countless startups. Secondly, I think the realities of running a business are much more difficult than people want to believe, and sometimes you make tough decisions nobody wants but are truly in the best interest of the company.
To be fair I still do not agree with everything I've heard Google doing in the news, but those are outliers. The narrative given by blogs and media sometimes (maybe even unintentionally) makes everything feel like a giant scheme, but I'd advise you to apply Occam's razor as much as possible. The people making the decision you don't like could legitimately just not understand what the "big deal" is. We don't always have the necessary context to really judge something, and our inclination when filling in gaps rarely likes to be kind. The Chrome login fiasco is a great example of good intentions that went over poorly with people.
I try to stay neutral as much as possible when looking at issues, be they from Google or other entities. People make mistakes and misjudgements all the time, and people assume malice far too often it feels.
Not to mention the crapstorm happening with YouTube, censorship in docs, drive and who knows what else.
In the end, I'm not sure it won't collapse, leaving MS and Apple to reign the way things are going. It seems Google's leadership has taken a "show me the money" shift in focus.
Microsoft's was in the 90s in the os/browser wars.
Basically all those shops that never have any customers, yet pay thousands in rent.
(They are fronts for money laundering is the answer!)
I think yes. Google has been considered "evil" by the tinfoil hat crowd for quite some time, and once again it has become apparent to the mainstream that they were right.
[0] can't find actual quote, did I dream?
Quoth: “We know where you are. We know where you’ve been. We can more or less know what you’re thinking about”
https://www.eff.org/nl/deeplinks/2009/12/google-ceo-eric-sch...
I'm surprised that people keep being surprised about Google being just another company. Money first, money last.
it's almost as though the people with money benefit from marginalizing the people cynical enough to understand what they are doing.
Google, like facebook, was from origins designed to end up this way. It was not some organic complication of motives due to massive growth.
Relevant reading: https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-goo...
I’m really curious, what did you think their business model was going to be given they have free services?
Surely the path they are on is the obvious one?
Google's direction is a pity really, as Apple needs a strong competitor in the mobile market to maintain innovation momentum.
Now that Google's culture is focused on collective racial/gender justice, there's no oxygen left to put towards individual rights like privacy.
When the support person didn't have a handy solution, they just started making up reasons why my issue wasn't supported, going so far as to tell me I was required to purchase non-existent, google-branded hardware in order to accomplish what the previous support person had already walked me through.
The first support person showed me how to clear the application cache, and then walked me through the process off testing the bluetooth. I was very impressed. I hadn't actually intended to request support - I was just using the device's help system.
Except - it happens again, two days later, and clearing the cache and setting up the voice assistant every couple of days isn't much of a solution. I didn't expect a fix - mainly wanted them to let them know the solution wasn't working.
The second support person had me walk through the basic diagnostics and then tried to give me reasons why what I was trying to do wasn't possible. First, it wasn't possible at all, then it became impossible to do with all my specific bluetooth devices and finally, it became impossible without using google bluetooth gear. (I misspoke previously - these actually do exist).
Pushy, inexperienced, untrained and unsupported. And very clearly miserable and under the gun.
Years back I bought a Nexus and chose an engraving option. I got the phone and it wasn't engraved so I contacted Google mostly to make sure I wasn't going to be shipped multiple phones (after battling the various prevent you from contacting us bosses).
I mean, I bought the phone from them, from their site, with Google branding on it, paying Google, with a warranty theoretically provided by Google, etc. Eventually someone responded giving me the phone number for HTC. No, you contact HTC, Google.
That was the last voluntarily purchased Google device I bought. I did get a couple more Nexus phones for development purposes, but did so begrudgingly. The Pixel line of phones and tablets...not a chance in the world.
I think the relationship was similar for the LG and Huawei Nexuses, but Google is now the "manufacturer" for the Pixel line, so hopefully things have improved.
But doesn't Google in particular have a reputation for nonexistent or terrible support? It's not part of their culture, everything is a beta and it's no big deal if it doesn't work right?
An open phone cannot come fast enough. It may well be even buggier at first but if it's like my experience with Linux over the last 17 years it will only get steadily better since the developer's incentives are actually largely aligned with mine.
In fact, during one of the last big windows 10 updates something failed for me in carrying the license over and they took time to investigate the incident in order to determine how to prevent it again for future updates.
the thing that surprised me was they _cared_ that something was wrong and were _interested_ in fixing to and preventing it happening again. Been a while since I dealt with a company that did that.
Actually, thinking about it I should probably switch to companies that do care about this stuff.
The service felt nothing less than amazing. All for a US10 purchase on a single Windows 10 machine.
It has always been the plan, it's literally their business model.
More precisely:
> The very fact that Google invented MapReduce, and Microsoft didn’t, says something about why Microsoft is still playing catch up trying to get basic search features to work, while Google has moved on to the next problem: building Skynet^H^H^H^H^H^H the world’s largest massively parallel supercomputer. I don’t think Microsoft completely understands just how far behind they are on that wave.
People were joking about Google ingesting all the data they could to build an AI, 12+ years ago.
I read some essays by Paul Graham, started my own business, and never listened to some faceless entity above me making bad decisions again.
I hope you don't put up with this nonsense.
Are you able to elaborate more? Google' internal culture (specifically the whole internal mailing list argument culture) fascinates me.
yet nothing has changed due to all of the "internal uproar" we are constantly told about.
nothing at all.