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I'd like to switch to Fastmail, but I have a handful of seldom-used secondary accounts (e.g., for family members), and it doesn't make sense to pay $5/mo/each when they're free on G Suite. Their pricing structure is designed for organizations or single users, but somehow my use case falls in between.

It seems a bit off that my household can stream as many movies as we want for $11/mo, or have unlimited access to an enormous music catalog for $15/mo, but e-mail service costs more.

ProtonMail looks about the same, actually more expensive, though they have a more attractive $30/mo plan for 6 users that it includes VPN access.

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I had the exact same problem. Then I found https://www.migadu.com/

"Have as many email addresses on as many domains you need, anytime. No extra costs. All your projects, ideas, employees, family members and IoT devices are welcome. Pets too.

Migadu is a radically different, independent email hosting from Switzerland. We do not count your domains, mailboxes, gigabytes or teeth."

I've been using migadu for nearly two years now. I've got multiple domains hooked up with no fuss. Their service is reliable, I've only had 1 down-time issue I can remember with their service going down but it only seemed to last 20 minutes and I don't believe I lost any emails during it.

The only downside I've seen is they don't have 2FA for individual mail accounts. They do have it for the top level account management UI though which is the most important thing for me.

The support team is also great, I've not had many issues but when I have I often end up emailing the same few people and they respond very quickly (I am in an EU timezone though).

I'm incredibly happy with their quiet and high quality service.

As an ex-customer (with Migadu for about a year), I have nothing but good things to say. Customer support was always very quick and knowledgable. It's not a huge team so it has that "I'm a regular" kinda vibe when you chat with them. Obviously I left but it was to try out Fastmail's JMAP (?) format because I had a lot of emails that web UIs struggle to handle. That's maybe the only improvement I could suggest?

I'm just browsing their website and it seems a bit too good to be true... The only drawback I see are daily sending limits (which I'm very happy with).

I've been using them for 2 years now, I'm a big fan of the service. I thought it was a bit too good to be true at first but I was slowly transitioning from a gmail address to my own domain so it wasn't a huge issue if it fell over or something. Turns out to be pretty rock solid and I'm a very happy customer now.

First I've heard of these guys but it looks like a great deal. It looks almost to good to be true for a family.

I'd highly recommend it, I've been a customer for about 2 years now I think. As per my comment above, I've found them to be rock solid so far. I also can't speak highly enough of their customer service either.

> and it doesn't make sense to pay $5/mo/each when they're free on G Suite.

It is a matter of perception. Your family members probably pay that $5 for a random coffee at starbucks. If you value your time and privacy, you'll be able to put that $5/month aside.

maybe https://posteo.de/en (Berlin based) would make sense for you or your family accounts ? It's just 1 EUR/mo for basic accounts and they focus on privacy, security and being sustainable.

Those are the guys that don't let you use special chars in passwords "in order to prevent unintentional wrong password entries".

Also, it doesn't work on your domain.

>Those are the guys that don't let you use special chars in passwords "in order to prevent unintentional wrong password entries".

is that really an issue? using all the special characters (assuming uniform distribution) gives you ~33% more entropy[1] for the same amount of characters, at the expense of increased input time (especially on touch keyboards) and being much harder to remember. why not just make your passwords 33% longer instead?

[1] according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascii85

my concern here is less on the password effectiveness, and more on the underlying whys

I would recommend Posteo, like kayoone did. Another alternative that may be even cheaper for you would be Runbox, which has lower prices for secondary accounts.

I had the same problem and I recently switch to Runbox.com, migration was frictionless and their service is solid

Netflix and Spotify are huge, so it’s normal if a company is not big VC funded that they ask a normal price. This price is usually more.

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