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>I used to need 9.5 hours of sleep as a teenager

Did you try going to sleep earlier? Who said you couldn't have 9.5 hours of sleep?

The other thing you probably would have benefitted from is an afternoon nap (if you were unwilling to go to bed a 9pm).

To blame others (those evil 55 year old early risers) is to deflect your own accountability.

By the way, I was an early riser in high-schools and I preferred to get out at 3:30 rather than 5. Im sure teachers would prefer to be out earlier to be with their families (or to run extracurriculars). There is no solution that fits everyone so adjustments need to be made by eveybody.

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That's not how that works. You can go to bed early, but you won't fall asleep. You'll close your eyes and try to sleep, try to relax and empty your mind, yet you will not fall asleep.

Speaking as someone who suffers from the same as OP and heard this suggestions over a million times.

The worst part of this is that society sees those with sleep "disorders" as being lazy and undisciplined, even when their grades (or whatever other measurable output) are higher than their early bird counterparts.

But to be fair to your comments about "no size fits all", there is nothing stopping schools from offering two different schooling times. The school I went to offered classes from either 07:15 to 13:00 or from 13:15 to 19:00. The ratio of early/late students was about 50/50 amongst the younger and 70/30 for high schoolers.

You literally failed to read every other word that I wrote.

Sleep rythm. For a lot of people it's not easy to "just go to sleep earlier"

Yet that compromise affects some people much more than others, which is the entire problem, and why some people go so far as to claim discrimination. I do agree that naps are an underutilized solution, but they don't really address the issue.

GP pretty much answered your question in the part of the quote you cut off.

There is no such thing as an afternoon nap for me. Maybe if I skipped sleeping the night before, but that's still only a "maybe".

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