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Personally the idea of being tame revolts me. Maybe even more so than our violent and gruesome past.

I also don't think they are linked. There is a definite difference to being civilised and being tame. MLK and Gandhi were civilised, and non-violent, but were certainly not tame.

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Being tame means won't have the desire to revolt against tyranny.

You might can't imagine that, coz you probably didn't live under one.

Currently in China, there are tons of people (personally I'd say most) prefer to live inside the "protection against malicious misinformation" of the great firewall. They have "everything they want" there, they listen to authoritative info and fend off doubts spontaneously.

Please stop taking HN threads into nationalistic flamewar about China. That's not what this site is for.

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