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Maybe don't accuse people of making strawman arguments when they merely repeated well known facts, then. That's not civil either.
More importantly, please stop posting flamebait to HN threads.
And I think the California government and many of its supposedly liberal citizens could do more as well. "Screw you, I got mine" applies to both sides.
Even better, we as a nation should be implementing all those and not just leaving it up to wealthy states.