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Okay I feed the troll.

So how much of the proof we got that Michelle Obama IS actually a women? Her look? Many transgander look much more womanish than she does. Same sex marriage? Could be? Have you seen her birth certificate (original, NOT the copy) that you can genuinely say she is a female? Yes I know she has the kids... okay so let me see their DNA test that actually they belong to Michelle as a parent. Exactly; you have none.

I'm doing you a favor here cause this will get downvoted into oblivion, but your approach is PRECISELY what the problem is with the way our society digest news and facts these days. If you think that someone, anyone, is for example a male, just because they have male name, look male and have a male sounding voice, I'm sorry but sometimes is not sufficient as a definite proof! You have to give a better example if that's was your best shot to make Jones looks like a loon.

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Please don't do this here.

care to elaborate ?

Don't feed trolls; don't post flamebait; don't go on about getting downvoted. All that is in the site guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Thanks!

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The validity of the claim lies on Jones and his ilk, not on I or other reasonably minded persons.

I like how joering calls me the troll!

I do not have proof in the mathematical sense that Michelle Obama is a woman. I merely have an overwhelming preponderance of the evidence that she is a woman and absolutely no evidence to the contrary. Indeed, interestingly enough you wrote:

...you can genuinely say SHE is a female?

Emphasis mine. I do not need definitive proof. Collect all the statements you believe to be true. Now collect all of the statements you can actually, definitively prove true. The intersection of these two sets is quite small. This is true for everyone.

You have to give a better example if that's was your best shot to make Jones looks like a loon.

You believe that Alex Jones thinking Michelle Obama is a man is not sufficient evidence that he is a loon and you have the temerity to claim that my approach to reasoning and facts is precisely what's wrong with the country.

Thank you for your post. It was instructive, illuminating, and hilarious all at the same time. That is a rare feat.

EDIT: dlp211 made the more succint point https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17702276

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Donald Trump is a woman. By your definition this statement is not enough to make me a loon. Therefore...

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> So how much of the proof we got that Donald Trump IS actually a man? His look? Many transgander look much more male than he does. Same sex marriage? Could be? Have you seen his birth certificate (original, NOT the copy) that you can genuinely say he is a male? Yes I know he has the kids... okay so let me see his DNA test that actually they belong to Donald. as a parent. Exactly; you have none.

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Are you suggesting that the above information should be provided to debunk me? (I mean, after all this is the President I am talking about rather than the First lady which means the fact he is secretly a woman is much more important!)

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