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“Look at how many plates I can juggle at once!”

“Aren’t you just trying to walk to the store?”

“Look! I added a fifth! Everyone do this now!”

I don't understand your analogy. What is walking to the store without juggling any plates in web development? I'm not aware of any stack that allows you to write styles, markup, business logic, and database queries in a single language.

I'm doing that today with Clojure/EDN: Garden, Reagent, Clojure/ClojureScript, HoneySQL.

(You might think it cheating somewhat because HoneySQL is just a thin syntactic wrapper on SQL, but then again, if I weren't cheap/poor, I could use Datomic, where it really is the same language.)

I don't understand the analogy either but I do know that when I'm doing iOS development it's almost always all in Swift. Sometimes some C or Objective-C or even C++ smattered in but that actually kinda proves my point because when I have to deal with one of those languages in a Swift project I slow down.

Arc does, fwiw. And that’s an important design goal. There is a lot of progress left to be made in this space.

In C#, you can almost do everything in a single language (linq to sql, model binding). You still need extensible application markup language (XAML) for the view.

Non-trivial websites are more complicated than walking to the store.

Isn’t using Java, PyTorch, Elasticsearch, and neural networks for a TODO iOS app the same?

Why would you use any of those technologies to build a TODO app?

My point is that overengineering and CV- or grant- driven development is not exclusive to the web.

Well instead of you telling TODO app what you have to do, TODO app tells you what you have to do, and that frees you up to think about doing it. Or it just does it for you and you go to beach.

This made me burst in laughter. I am indeed using Java and Elasticsearch, and no PyTorch, but Spark for an app I am working on. Way more complex than it should be.

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