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Thanks Apple, now back to keyboard and Touch Bar.

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They did (quietly) roll out improvements[1] to the keyboard, though time will tell if they actually help enough...

1: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/7/19/17590100/a...

They need to improve the key travel. If I wanted to type on a flat board, I'd get a Yoga Book.

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/android-tablets/yoga-bo...

I for one am much happier with the newer keyboard and now the old one feels weirdly mushy and gross.

I reckon keyboards are a matter of taste ultimately.

Yes, I like the 2017 keyboard. I'm not ecstatic over it but definitely usable for me. I also like the touchbar. Maybe I'm just weird.

TouchBar is quite amazing once you know the gestures, too. Tapping and holding the volume/brightness key and sliding it for super-precise volume or brightness control is an amazing feature.

> I reckon keyboards are a matter of taste ultimately.

People can debate about the feel of the keyboard but its fact that the new keyboards are louder compared to the 2015 keyboard. The noise gets annoying when you are working late night.

There is lots of people happily typing on Cherry MX Blue switches, notorious for being loud. I know some using IBM Model M which is even louder.

Even the noise is a subjective taste, ultimately.

Anecdotally, the 2018 key travel feels better than the 2017. But I can't stand the touch bar even after a year with it.

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