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I am not fishing for drama but I want to speak my mind. On that note, the most blatant form of hypocrisy in my opinion is pro-"life" supporters whose main argument is "think of the children" yet they also ignore the thousands of children that die every day.

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Those children aren't being systematically murdered with the full support of the government tho.

I'm pro-choice I'm just saying its not fair to compare abortion to child deaths in general.

>Those children aren't being systematically murdered with the full support of the government tho.

Wars kill children.

If your moral worldview doesn't equate those effected by abortion as valueless clumps of cells,

The moral scale of legalized abortion dwarfs that of modern wars

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Between 1945 and 1992, there were 149 major wars, killing more than 23 million people.

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Recent developments in warfare have significantly heightened the dangers for children. During the last decade, it is estimated (and these figures, while specific, are necessarily orders of magnitude) that child victims have included:

2 million killed; 4-5 million disabled; 12 million left homeless; more than 1 million orphaned or separated from their parents; some 10 million psychologically traumatized.4

https://www.unicef.org/sowc96/1cinwar.htm

There have been more than 45 million abortions just in the US since Roe v Wade

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_U...

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I'm guessing that's not your moral world view, but for the sake of understanding the people you disagree with, you should realize that they view legalized abortion as one of the great humanitarian crises of our time, which easily outweighs most other issues that we squabble about. (And yeah, justifies teaming up with otherwise unsavory bedfellows)

Thank you for posting this. I'm pretty pro-choice for emotional reasons, but it's still extremely fascinating to me to learn the pro-life arguments (even if only to bolster my pro-choice views).

They don't ignore the thousands of children who die every day. You might not know about it, but Christians support all kinds of charities: food kitchens, medical missions overseas, operation christmas child which gives gifts to kids, the international justice mission which seeks to break kids and adults out of slavery... There are hundreds of examples.

One closely related to the topic at hand: crisis pregnancy centers often supply help to new mothers in addition to counseling them to no seek an abortion. That could mean short term housing, job training, community support (bible studies with other mothers), diapers and other baby supplies, etc...

Just because you can't help everyone doesn't mean you shouldn't try to help someone.

How is any of that hypocrisy?

You know it would be really great if Christians support all of the things you mentioned without resorting to conversions. There shouldn't be any ulterior motive attached to goodwill. Else it can no longer be called charity and should be labelled trade. What Christians really need to do (especially those in the West) is check if the money and clothes that they donate to Missionaries are actually being used honourably. The end goal should not be soul harvesting at the expense of someone's misery. Genuine goodwill will never go unappreciated; mix in religion and the Act loses it's benevolence. Sorry to put it so bluntly.

Read more about this menace here: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/philip-goldberg/missionaries-...

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