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Recently I started shelling out $25 a month for a G-Suite account. I wish I could have kept my @gmail email address, as I think your own vanity URL looks a little tacky, but oh well.

Anyway, for privacy but also security it’s been amazing.

DKIM, DMARC, SPF, and S/MIME for mail. All attachments are executed in a special sandbox before moving to your inbox (delays mail a little bit). None of my personal data / content is scanned or looked at (I think?). Plenty of security rules, alerts, and audits I can set up. Also an actual support phone number I can call for help whenever.

Why can’t Google move to a paid model? It’s worked for both Oracle and Microsoft for the last 40 years.

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> as I think your own vanity URL looks a little tacky, but oh well.

I think it depends on how professional the personal URL is. If it is my_name@wazoo-how-is-it-going-lol.com, then I agree that it looks rather tacky. It it is first_name@last_name.com, then it looks more professional than a @gmail address.

> None of my personal data / content is scanned or looked at (I think?)

How can you say "for privacy [...] it's been amazing" if you haven't even checked?

They do say "Google does not collect, scan, or use your data in G Suite services for advertising purposes" and "Google does not sell [your] data to third parties" which mostly covers it, though (although ideally they'd strengthen the wording in the first part to say they don't use your data for any purposes other than to provide it to you... but now I'm just being picky.)

If it's worth anything, G Suite products are HIPAA and FedRAMP compliant.

https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-white...

> as I think your own vanity URL looks a little tacky

Free domains like gmail.com, hotmail.com, live.com, yahoo.com, etc emails are tacky, lazy, and unprofessional. A domain is less than $10/year. You don't even have to be technical to buy one and use it with G-Suite. There's no excuse to use a free email domain.

To me the value is in not having to spell it. When I say @gmail.com no one ever typos that half.

With your own domain, you can shorten the part before the '@'. You could call it "forename@lastname.com" instead of "forename.lastname@gmail.com".

Only if nobody got lastname.com first. My last name is squatted, and the leech will sell it for "only $2995". I later discovered I could get the "lastna.me", but that's prone to be mistyped as well.

My "firstname.com" and "first.in" (shorter version of my first-name and that is name I am actually known by pretty much everywhere) are both squatted by a lawyer and it is being renewed every year since last 10+ years. It's not being used. Not at all.

I tried to contact them but the contact email (Hotmail) probably doesn't exist or expired as my emails bounced off. I tried to contact the registrar but didn't receive any email from them either.

I am thinking of going for firstname.net. I am not sure whether it's better than my already registered "first.im".

Note: first as in if "firstname " is Michelangelo then " first" is Michel.

So register something else that's short and memorable. It doesn't have to be your name.

If your use of G Suite is only for email (and calendar), and if you don’t need phone support, there are better paid options out there that are a lot cheaper. Mailbox.org, Fastmail, Protonmail, Posteo (this one doesn’t allow custom domains) and more.

None of those are better than Gmail.

Fastmail is better than gmail.

I’m not sure what you mean, isn’t your experience using G Suite as a paid service?

I think he wants something in between gsuite and free Gmail. A Gmail+ that lets you keep the @gmail address and take out all the spyware.

I think the parent means, why don't they move away from ads in general to get their revenue from paid services, like gsuite.

The last price I recall was $60/user/year (at the default level of storage space). Has the price increased that much, or does this reflect extra storage or other add-ons?

https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html

Yeah, they must have the enterprise edition - basic is $5 a month

It’s $25 per month with no contract and that’s for the Enterprise Edition, the one with the most features. I believe it starts at $10/month for lesser editions.

There are three tiers, ranging from $5 to $25 per month per user.

Why are you paying $25? Isn't it like $5 or $9 per user?

Is it still tacky if you actually run your own MTA?

Could you forward your gmail address to your gsuite address and set the gmail address as your reply to?

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