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IMO nothing beats a slightly used Volt.

It is a ridiculously well engineered car. Way more power than the competition, bigger battery than the competition. The 2009 model is still technically ahead of all the other plugins on the market.

Yeah, but GM products are not exactly fashionable among people shopping for Tesla alternatives.

And the i3 is? That's one of the ugliest cars on the market.

It's not about the look of the car for BMW owners, it's just about the price tag and the name on the badge.

I thought the i3 was a pretty affordable BMW esp if you can get the rebates.

I think you may fall into the category of people I was referring to, if you think $45k for a slow, base model car is no big deal.

An ugly German luxury car is still a German luxury car.

the (v|b)olt has horrible charging infrastructure.

It doesn't matter for the Volt. Since it has a range extender, there's no real need for fast charging. Just charging it every night from a 120V outlet will eliminate most gas usage for most people. If you run out of charge, it's an annoyance rather than a disaster.

I can't speak to the Bolt since I've never seen one.

I've test driven a bolt and done the diligence on it.

It needs 4 (FOUR) days to charge on a standard outlet. If you happen to own a house, you can have the higher amp outlet installed for like 2k.

Otherwise, good luck finding a fast charging station for GM cars. They don't exist.

It depends on your mileage. 4days to fully recharge from empty, if you are on a road trip (which you obviously couldn't do in a Bolt). But overnight it will charge 50miles, which covers local daily use.

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