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To clarify: I don't doubt that there is a work on it, but this particular call in demo was scripted prepared fake.

You have no evidence. Your supporting argument is a straw man about an unrelated device.

yeah, right. because google works on multiple assistants simultaneously

Have you ever worked in a corporation? Corporation can work simultaneously on three extremely similar projects and each team might not even know that two others exist. Not due to secrecy, just due to mess.

We're talking about assistants here (you may replace 'assistant' with 'AI'). There are many-many-many teams working on different aspects of it but it's a single product at the end. It's not the same as spawning yet another chat app by another team. You may have different teams working on implementing similar feature but it still would be sitting on shoulders of/powered by the same assistant/product. And I have a general idea of what it's capable of at the moment (see above original comment).

Everyone who thinks that there are multiple distinct assistants worked on at Google (not the separate features powered by THE ONE) - Apple would like to have a word with you. Yes, it just like chat apps - another team just need to start thinking of promotions.

Have you ever worked in development?

Oh no, you got me.

And since I've been caught talking nonsense let me explain how I (as an outsider) got these crazy ideas:

I overestimated complexity involved in creating smarts behind it, Siri and Bixby mislead me. Glad to know that google assistant and duplex are two absolutely different products and duplex is not a new feature on the same (often confused by the same words commands) foundation.

And I thought that due to all the complexity to create this original assistant/AI it would be high-level product where even in messed up corporation environments no duplicate efforts would slip through (we all know how dysfunctional big companies are, or maybe just because it's Google (they have multiple chat apps) that's the way how they approach all the initiatives). Of course I was wrong and they have multiple assistants being created. It's just a matter of having one more team tasked with it.

Those Apple and Samsung, looks like they're not even trying!

And about submission itself - it was an absolutely real call to suspecting nothing regular person, who just happened to talk in that particular way, similar to how I try to provide all the context when doing web searches (but funny thing is that it doesn't even matter - demo was not to make a call to real restaurant, it was just showing functionality being developed, they may have even put someone on scene to take a call, but decided to insist that demo call was absolutely regular one instead)

Anyway, I hope everybody is happy and not all worked up anymore, I was wrong on the internet, was put on my place and accepted that.

peace

Do not think people were all that worked up. Just wanted to set the record straight.

Your post also was so definite instead of suggesting. Things do not know about usually you start with a little less direct, IMO.

To be honest - I know a thing or two about development. Also, I know a thing or two about big projects at bigger companies.

Have you ever worked in development at Google?

They store billions of lines of code in a monorepo. If they don't have an organizational structure and automated testing tools to make sure they aren't having multiple teams of expensive engineers duplicate work, they might as well close up shop right now.

Have you ever worked for a corporation on a really big project? It's a little different than all those myths about corporations we like so much.

Kinda like they don't work on multiple chat apps simultaneously - that would be too silly of them to be believable, right?

You compare what many call AI to chat app. It's slightly different amount of work/resources needed.

You have no evidence that they don't.

They have 2 maps products.

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