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> The only thing I got from this post is that I want to seriously avoid working with a person who expresses themselves in such an unproductive way.

Everything in this world is about being productive

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I remember reading a great article a while ago about how, since the industrial revolution, it is common to judge people against the same criteria that we judge machines. So we ask about "productivity", "efficiency", and "time in operation", rather than the classical virtues like "judgement", "integrity" and "humility". I wish I could remember the name of that piece.

I expressed a personal preference. If you enjoy working with someone who would put out a memo in this style, then that's up to you. But my personal preference (which I'm happy to take even more downvotes for) is to not work with someone like this.

I just didn't find this piece compelling in any way. I think someone like DHH offers a more valuable criticism of the downsides to startup culture - and as a bonus he sets a real world example of some of the solutions he'd like to see more broadly by implementing some of them in his own company.

Meanwhile, this particular author writes a post like this and then goes and works for WeWork. There's a hint of irony somewhere here.

Why would you want to work with someone who actively undermines the productive capacity of the workplace? All that means is everyone else has to work harder to balance them out.

There are plenty of people who'd say frat culture undermines the productive capacity of the workplace, likewise with alcohol or being able to hit on others, or difficulties people have because hookup culture is now a thing. Both extremes of that are clearly terrible... there's really no right answer.

I don't disagree. My comment was specifically geared towards the comment thread calling out productive communication, and whether or not that's a valid characteristic of a desirable coworker (as well as the inverse).

Some consider it an ideology called “Economism”

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