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Yeah one of the major points towards vim is pretty much every unix environment has vim installed.

Actually if you happen to ssh into the classical proprietary UNIX servers you might end up with plain old vi still.

But yeah, that is why even I as Emacs user always bothered to at least know my way around vi, usually Emacs is most likely not installed.

> Actually if you happen to ssh into the classical proprietary UNIX servers you might end up with plain old vi still.

Let's be honest: out of 10000000000's of SSH connections in a given 24 hours span, how many are to a "classical proprietary UNIX server"? 0.0001% maybe ? Is it really a use case worth optimizing for ? They should be treated as applicances, not as general-purpose computers.

Depends on where you work. It could easily be 100% of the ssh connections you make.

His point still stands because the vast majority of people have nothing to do with those systems :)

Vast majority of people have never even heard of VIM.

Let's say "the vast majority of people using SSH"

I'd add that if you have more than a handful of servers, and find yourself shelling into these and editing files by hand regularly, you're doing ops wrong

The kind of companies where budgets for Oracle and DB2 licenses are rounding errors.

As sibling noted, it depends on where you work. I've seen AIX and Solaris still in use.

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