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From what I have seen of Xi Jinping, he looks, acts, and speaks like a somewhat reasonable world leader. Certainly not the type of person capable of allowing a horrific atrocity like this. Now all I will be able to picture when I see him is Hitler, as this is the kind of thing that the Nazis did.

It does at least put the petty political squabbles we have in the US in perspective. Say what you will about Trump - he isn't killing people and cutting out their organs.

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Most of the people responsible for the most vicious atrocities in history look, act, and speak like reasonable people. In the U.S., staid corporate lawyer types like John Dulles have been responsible for vastly more human suffering than outlandish super villain caricatures like Trump (not to say he's good). Recently I've been reading up on the history of lynchings and violent strikebreaking in the U.S. - one of the chilling things about that kind of history is the people who ordered or participated in anti-black or anti-labor death squads were usually reasonable, sober, responsible community leaders, businessmen, local lawyers and Chamber of Commerce types.

Always be suspicious of people with power, especially people with the power of life and death.

> Certainly not the type of person capable of allowing a horrific atrocity like this.

You’d be surprised at how quickly power twists and warps one’s morality.

The nazis used the remains of the Jew from extermination camps as fertilizer. So yeah, that's the kind of the things the nazis did.

Didn't you hear about the nationwide political purge he's just spent a few years doing? Or changing the law to remove term limit on the presidency (conveniently, himself)?

Maybe some day we'll all realise that Optics are meaningless.

"Now all I will be able to picture when I see him is Hitler, as this is the kind of thing that the Nazis did."

You know how propaganda works?

If not, you should check it again, if you can change your view based on one article. I'd like to see hard evidence first, before judging like that and there is too much propaganda flying around at the moment, that I am hesistant to believe that China is really "Killing innocent people on demand for their organs on a mass scale".

No doubt, China is doing horrible things, their whole fight against Falung Gong etc. shows many of its ugly faces - and it is not the first time, I heard from Organ-harvesting and selling in china - but hard evidence for that claim("Killing innocent people on demand for their organs on a mass scale") is something different.

Besides: "Say what you will about Trump - he isn't killing people and cutting out their organs." Not that we know. But we do know, that your secret agencies spy all over the world and hack and blackmail and abduct and torture and assassinate and manipulate and also bomb whenever Pax America or some assets of an important member are at risk. Not for democracy, nor human rights - but plain material motivation.

So maybe resist the temptation to feel too righteous, living in "gods own country" because your politicans seem a bit nicer than others. (in general they are ... but also only if it suits them)

You're correct that I should have added the disclaimer "if this is true" to my comment. A quick Google search before I made my comment seems to indicate that it is true, although the government claims that they stopped this practice on January 1, 2015 (which could be a total lie). Regardless of whether it's still going on or not, they seem to admit that they at least used to do it. The people involved in either allowing or carrying it out are nothing more than monsters. The fact that they may have bowed to public pressure to stop this does not change that.

> So maybe resist the temptation to feel too righteous, living in "gods own country" because your politicans seem a bit nicer than others.

I said nothing about god in my comment. I simply meant that I am grateful to live in a country where our biggest fears fall far short of worrying that we will be carved up for parts by our government.

" A quick Google search before I made my comment seems to indicate that it is true, although the government claims that they stopped this practice on January 1, 2015 "

for this claim?

"Killing innocent people on demand for their organs on a mass scale"

I doubt it.

"I said nothing about god in my comment. I simply meant that I am grateful to live in a country where our biggest fears fall far short of worrying that we will be carved up for parts by our government."

I know, that was a bit hyperbolic. But I am quite sure also the common chinese person is not "worrying that he will be carved up for parts by his government", because the common chinese person is not Falung Gong.

And the common US-Person is not muslim. Because they do sweat from time to time I suppose, especially when visiting relatives in Pakistan. Or living in a poor black neighborhood - and have your house mistakenly raided. Those things do happen in your country, despite you feeling quite safe.

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