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Tesla's Autopilot seems to be little more than the same lane keeping and adaptive cruise control everyone else has with the safety tolerances lowered a whole lot, to the detriment of several dead drivers. You can readily buy other cars with the same EyeQ3 board that powered AutoPilot until Tesla's breakup with Mobileye, and their new Nvidia-based clone of it does little more than the original. The _hardware_ for level 5 autonomy is nothing proprietary or impressive, and they've shown zero evidence that the _software_ for level 5 autonomy exists in any state beyond the demo Nvidia hands its DRIVE PX2 customers essentially "out of the box". You're taking their marketing at face value while their EAP/FSD packages have largely been vaporware for 2.5 years now.

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> Tesla's Autopilot seems to be little more than the same lane keeping and adaptive cruise control everyone else has with the safety tolerances lowered a whole lot, to the detriment of several dead drivers.

It seems that way to you because you haven't used the system. It is not operating with "tolerances lowered a whole lot" or really, at all.

> You can readily buy other cars with the same EyeQ3 board that powered AutoPilot until Tesla's breakup with Mobileye, and their new Nvidia-based clone of it does little more than the original.

It's quite silly to talk about the hardware when it's obvious that it's the software that will truly differentiate the systems.

Tesla's system is much more impressive than anything else on the market because of the software involved for both hardware revisions. It is able to operate in environments where other systems fail and is able to do so reliably on more roads than their competition.

> You're taking their marketing at face value while their EAP/FSD packages have largely been vaporware for 2.5 years now.

You're correct here, but then again, the same can be said of their competitors.

> It is able to operate in environments where other systems fail and is able to do so reliably on more roads than their competition.

Proof needed. Just because Tesla rolls out their software in risky situations and while other manufacturers play it safe doesnt mean that Tesla is more capable, they are just more riskful.

I have used the system, I disagree with your opinion about its capabilities. I think it is as I described it.

I also don't think "the same can be said of their competitors" is at all true. I don't know any other car maker that is selling non-existent driver assistance features/packages to their customers.

I disagree. Systems from other manufacturers (BMW, Mercedes, Audi/VW) are as capable but they prevent you from using them above certain speeds for safety reasons. Tesla can do little more than lane assist and adaptive cruise control, as recent events have shown.

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