> Maybe people are tired of the endless claims from the Tesla fans that "everything everyone else has ever done before is wrong".
Of course everything everyone else has ever done before isn't wrong. Lots of it is right. But if challenging all of it is what's needed to innovate in the places where they were wrong, then by all means I support Tesla and Musk. Why would I not support someone trying to innovate, and succeeding? Unless of course you want to try to tell me Tesla hasn't innovated the auto industry in any way-- in that case we can end our discussion here because we won't ever see eye to eye.
> Why do so many people here root against Ford and GM?
I root against Ford and GM and the others because with all their resources and might, they haven't done what Tesla's done....instead they've done the bare minimum. Tesla started in 2004 from scratch. If GM or Ford had committed the resources they could have to electric vehicles and autonomy and so in 2004, God knows what they would have for us now. But they didn't. They sat still, incrementally improving mileage and adding bluetooth and so on. Why would I root for that? Why are you rooting for that? What's exciting about that?
> Yet to be seen. Right now they are hand-building cars for huge losses. There's no "mass" production
"Yet to be seen"? Geez. Yeah, clearly Tesla's not scaling at all. Selling about the same number of cars as two years ago, or five years ago. No evidence of progress at Tesla.
> Or are you of the mind that Musk is infallible?
Of course Musk is fallible. Does a person have to be infallible to innovate and succeed? Do they have to be infallible to be admired?
> According to whom? Tesla won't release the numbers, and the Model 3 tracker from Blomberg shows 2,300 per week
Yep, no doubt the 2300 will decline back towards 1000, then they'll go bankrupt. No reason to believe that things are picking up. Just because it's 2300 now and was 150 three months ago, that's not evidence of any progress. Easier to believe they're going to fall apart.
So hard for me to understand your way of thinking.