Watch one ponzi scam video on Youtube and the algorithms will start showing you others ...
The former absolutely need to be talked about...
Obviously there are more people incentivized to talk positively about these incentivized crypto-assets (assuming they own crypto-assets structured as Pyramid-Ponzi schemes), so they learn and get good talking about the hype and talk about the "positives."
The reason these are more powerful than say a single stock broker running a Ponzi scheme, is that you have all of these unrelated, decentralized and people that are global that are indirectly collaborating. It's why it's so much more dangerous as well. It's continued in part for so long too, because with a stock broker, you arrest/charge the stock broker. With incentivized crypto-assets, you have a lot of different parties/systems that must work together, indirectly, for it to act like the Pyramid-Ponzi schemes that they are.
This being convoluted like it is seems to be causing regulators and enforcement to lock up -- along with all of the people and organizations actively lobbying to "educate" regulators around the world with the version and whitewashing to see how they can try to fiddle their way to fit within the laws countering this kind of pattern. Or maybe they're being bribed with "$1,000,000" worth of "Bitcoins" (per year?) that they're promised will become worth 10-100x within 10-20 years.
The solution is a crypto-asset that isn't incentivized, that is government mandated, and that CONVERTS their fiat currency into the crypto-asset -- not simply exchanging it, e.g. the "paper" currency gets destroyed, instead of given to the seller.
With incentivized crypto-assets, the cost of the future value is transferred to the future holders - and even though it may be subtle, it will become a very substantial amount; it already is a substantial amount that's been transferred, however there's a bigger base of holders now who want to at minimum get the money back they bought them for - and so becomes the marketing force behind it all, disregarding or ignorant of the negatives for society as a whole.
Edit: To add, can there be incentivized crypto-assets that are structured to be legitimate? It seems the angle that is being taken to legitimize this structure is that they perhaps mimic the structure of stocks on a stock market, however one major difference is that stocks on the stock market aren't used a transactional layer - and therefore don't have (hopefully) under or uneducated people making the trades/purchases; the whole purpose of these incentivized crypto-asset blockchains is of course to get general consumers/the masses a.k.a. highly likely under educated people buying/using them for their platforms as a transactional layer; people could otherwise simply pay fiat currency for access to identical services, without them adopting/vesting into these Pyramid-Ponzi scheme structures though (all who should be being educated that others must adopt/use the service in order to maintain the value for their crypto-asset; however is that education then too close to admitting it's a Ponzi-Pyramid scheme?). There are more differences than this example.
It's not a very useful definition.
That only costs money in 2018.
This is also why they collapse so fast. It's basically a race to not be left holding the bag.
Bitcoin et al of course don't outright make claims of returns. Their communities with vested interest have gained enough size and attention that they gained traction in mainstream media, and that community has been "smart"/clever enough to not outright market it as a Ponzi scheme - where they whitewash with marketing hype for anything but, and where they rally to "HODL" when the crypto-assets they own are either a) on a downtrend (to help reduce a massive sell off), and b) at highs (to avoid a massive sell off) - all of which to show how illiquid these crypto-assets are; https://hackernoon.com/analyzing-every-reddit-comment-mentio... - a blog post by a company who allows bot-based buying/selling based on these HODL patterns...
There will be other tricks this organized community are surely doing now, like aligning big buyers with big sellers, so the value won't tank when someone wants to buy $100MM+ worth of the crypto-asset; all of which will lead to the perception of it not being so volatile.
This is the best wolf-dressed-in-sheep-costume that's ever come into existence.
I believe non-incentivized crypto-assets will win out in the end anyways - that is if blockchain is even a necessary part of a solution - as incentivized crypto-asset structures will cost society more (in the short term and long-term, anyone who "buys in" past a tipping point anyway), and so platforms that compete with incentivized crypto-asset powered platforms simply have to educate users/market to compete with how their wealth will be unreasonably/unnecessarily reallocated weighted towards the earlier adopters.
Most of them are running the exact same codebase as Bitcoin with a few tweaks. How are they any less of a "shitcoin" than Bitcoin?
They knew it was a high high risk cryptocurrency. Its like instead of buying 10,000$ of stock, these people bought 10,000$ of lottery tickets.
The horrible part is that on /r/cryptocurrency is that people still have this mentality.