[0] https://courses.cit.cornell.edu/jl2545/4550/materials/lewisr...
Also, the onus to prove the claim that digital marketing has an effect is not logically on the interlocutor, but on the claimant.
Knowing many marketing folks across many industries, their incentives aren't usually tied to incremental lift but rather gross channel volume. So if they can cannibalize from more effective sales or advertising channels they do so, without qualms.
I've heard the claim like grandparent comment has made before for years. Yet, when pushed, it is suddenly a golden cow. This is concerning, precisely due to the figure you cite of billions of dollars.
No, not really. You're making the extraordinary claim that it has no effect, that millions of businesses are independently making the same mistake.
As was stated by another in this thread, prisoner's dilemma leads to unintuitive economic outcomes.
That's the evidence. Companies don't waste money for no reason. And so the only reason that they could be spending this amount of money is because it works.
So yes I'd say that this type of argument counts as a "proof".
I believe that tomrod is claiming the latter is also false.
In short: Advertising is very effective and worthwhile if you're the only one with a product in that space. As soon as others enter it just becomes an arms race backed by mountains of money with questionable results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma#In_econom...
Why spend all the money on questionable results? At risk of coming off as glib, perks. I worked in a field tangential to advertising and all of the money is very useful for throwing parties, signaling success and status, being able to invite clients to large events thatyour advertising is involved with (think superbowl), etc.
For some reason HN at large prefers a more conspiracy leaning attitude toward advertising which you can see in the top comment right now: "Anyone with a credit card can start changing how people think and act." This perspective believes that advertising is like a brain ray that persuades people to do whatever they say - that targets have limited agency over their own thoughts. It's very appealing to assume everyone is a gullible sheep (except yourself, naturally) but that's not the reality behind advertising spending.
You already have the insight. "Signaling" is just as much advertising as anything else. It's well-studied and the money spent in maintaining status-quo is just as important as growing a new product.
The proof that digital advertising does anything but set up a costly lead channel is still a bit lacking, and your plausible assertion shows why that may be the case.