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It could, but if the revolutionary are to achieve success, many would need to react at the same time so the impact is swift and "unmanageable" by the Chinese government. It's not a coincidence that China recently filled all streets with one of the most advanced AI-powered video surveillance systems in the world ahead of this announcement.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-surveillance-came...

If the Chinese government is able to "kill" (not necessarily in a metaphoric way) any small groups organizing against the government, then it will be very difficult to change this.

If Putin succeeded in becoming a dictator in Russia, I think it's going to be easier for Xi to become a dictator and maintain his power in China.

I'm afraid it may be more likely for some of the Chinese elites that secretly hate and oppose Xi to start something up than for the population to rise at this point in time. Maybe in 20 years, the frustration in the population would bubble up and they could do something about it en mass. Or China could become a bigger version of North Korea.

The advancements in technology don't really seem to be on the people's side either, other than censorship-resistant (a key point, as not all are) blockchain technologies. But I'm not sure these P2P technologies will advance fast enough to stay ahead of Surveillance AI.

"If Putin succeeded in becoming a dictator in Russia, I think it's going to be easier for Xi to become a dictator and maintain his power in China."

Not sure what this means... In what sense is Putin not a dictator already? Despite the illusion of free elections (almost universal in dictatorships), widespread vote tampering, the imprisonment of opponents and prohibition of alternative parties make his rule absolute.

I think you are misunderstanding mtgx. He says that Putin has already suceeded in becoming a dictator (hence the past tense). If he has already suceeded it should be easy for Xi to become a dictator.

Heh, my first reaction was the same as mtgx. Look at the dictators/semi-dictators/wannabe-dictators in major countries around the world now:

1. USA - Trump

2. Turkey - Erdogen

3. Russia - Putin

4. India - Modi

Meanwhile Macron won a highly contested race in France against a far right candidate, Merkel did something similar.

When the democracies in the world are in such disarray and can't band together to collectively act as a check on authoritarianism, it emboldens the latter.

Both Xi and communist party wants stability and economic growth, and they cannot get that if they can't keep most of the people happy.

Even with media censorship, the Chinese government has to react to people's comments (and a lot of times, much faster and effective than western governments, contradictory to what western media wants to believe)

They might be able to rapidly react to people's concern, but let's not forget that this is a concern only when an issue ignites concern for a sufficiently large number of people, and usually when the issue is dire enough to force them to act, or incite anger in them.

Often times the reactions are short term and not very good solutions either. See China's economic policies after 2008 that helped keep the economy afloat but have caused much concern from many well-known economists.

Let me just say that personally I think China has done a fantastic job of industrializing rapidly, lifting millions from poverty and destitution. I have serious concerns about the same ideas working to push China into the future though; which is why its very important to foster creativity and allow dissent even though its uncomfortable for those in power.

One thing that often comes to mind is how upto the 17th century Chines economy was the biggest and its military and Naval might were unparalleled in the history of the world (except perhaps the Romans before). Then an inward focused policy of sealing the country against contact with the outside weakened the country into destitution. So bad political policies have real consequences and this news makes me much more concerned that they will be repeated.

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