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My problem as a mobile developer is being practically required to use it to not hinder my app's adoption rate.

My personal facebook has been disabled for 9 months and I had to recently reactivate it because you can't have an app (for using their auth) without a personal account.

So yeah until the network effect they have changes (the majority leave), people are "trapped" using it.

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They are not, and neither are you. It may affect the adoption rate of your app if you don't include a "login with facebook" option, maybe. But that is a small price we all have to pay to influence change.

Haha, you first.

This is the kind of comment that really hits hard how unwilling tech workers are to stand up for ethics.

"My cog in the machine is not hurting anyone, why should I care" is how things get very, very bad.

it's more like "I am a tiny replaceable cog in a huge money-printing machine. if somebody is going to collect the paycheck anyway, why shouldn't it be me?"

making the hard choice is easy when you have nothing to lose, and it's even easier when you're so rich that the losses don't matter. the folks in the middle have just enough that it would really hurt to lose it. I can't say I blame them for guarding that jealously.

phone # + code is already the most popular method outside of the US, and gaining a lot more traction within the US. Login w/ Facebook does not really affect the success/failure of an app unless you really need their data for your app to work.

I'm already doing it ;-)

Do you allow login with Google?

No it's device id first (anonymous) then either facebook or email to secure the account. Given the target audience, google auth probably wouldn't be popular.

DeviceID is not anon.

It's anonymous in the sense that the account is tied to the device and not the user. It's also anonymous in the case of platforms like Apple where the device id is unique between different publishers. Note this is a widely accepted way to refer to device id type accounts on mobile.

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