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I don't know what it is about Atlassian's branding but it always feels uncomfortably corporate to use any of their software. I'm worried that if I start using Atlassian software I'm going to have to buy inexpensive business-casual clothes, commute an hour and 15 minutes both ways, make small talk with Janet from accounting by the coffee machine while my mocha latte brews, and get Greg my middle-manager my self-assessment by EOD.

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The primary function of Atlassian software is to say "Access denied." You tell Greg he needs to give you permission to do whatever. Greg says he'll do that after he gets your self-assessment. He later writes on your self-assessment receipt that you're a whiner lacking self-motivation.

I've used Confluence for two years. It's slow and the editor is buggy. The primary function is to prevent me from making a document public. I've used JIRA for 8 years. JIRA's primary function is to send email.

I'd say your assessment is accurate.

>The primary function of Atlassian software is to say "Access denied."

Not only is that funny, it's pretty accurate. If it weren't for that requirement it could all be replaced with git, ftp, and email.

Wait, people actually read jira emails? I just filter it to my 'ham' folder.

80% of my coworkers do not read them. I read the ~5% of them that contain more than "Status: -Open- Assigned." Of my remaining coworkers, there are a dozen that reply from their mail client, which just makes everything worse.

Honestly, in a way it's kind of refreshing. They're not trying to be all cutesy and hip like so many startups, which usually just seems unnecessary and almost gets in the way.

I don't need any more bright, pastel colours, cute little characters, etc.

  I don't need any more bright, pastel colours, cute little characters, etc.

Are you talking about their Jira redesign?

And here I am, sitting during my 1.5 hour commute, thinking about how I should buy some more work-appropriate casual clothes because no one else wears suits at this site, and what free or inexpensive software we could use to make a project team collaborate more effectively...

What other "enterprise ready" solutions are there for this purpose? My other options based on the team's familiarity with them are are O365 (SharePoint/Outlook/Teams + MS Project), ServiceNow (I guess?), or HP PPM. I'd rather use something hosted because getting internal infrastructure is hard.

https://topicbox.com – as Slack is to IRC, Topicbox is to mailing lists.

Sounds like they nailed it.

The Atlassian blues.

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