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Sorry but I'm gonna rain on your parade here.

DBVisualizer already runs on Windows/Mac/Linux, connects to more databases, and implements just about every feature you're currently working on, plus all the ones you'll excitedly announce in the next few years -- like exporting data, query parameters, source table editing, charts, result set search, command-line interface, etc.

https://www.dbvis.com/features/

Your screenshots show so much wasted whitespace... timestamps that line wrap = half as many rows fit on the screen. Tons of unused space in the 'instagram_id' column.

A while back I used DatabaseSpy, which was also much more feature-rich than your tool. https://www.altova.com/databasespy

No relation to either tool, just a customer/user.

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Dbviz certainly looks very enterprisey, checks all the boxes: java, non-native UI, tons of toolbars and sub-windows, vertical tabs (that's why enterprises need monitors that swivel). Btw, the row height in TablePlus can be configured in settings.

To my eyes, dbvisualizer and databasespy are never going to have native look and feel on OSX and I’m going to feel like their UI is inferior because of it. Maybe they’re more powerful & established right now especially but I used Sequel Pro when I was using MySQL for the same reason. This tool seems great for people like me who see good OSX experience as table stakes.

The true OSX experience from TablePlus won my heart

> To my eyes, dbvisualizer and databasespy are never going to have native look and feel on OSX and I’m going to feel like their UI is inferior because of it.

I'm having trouble understanding this thought process. Are you saying you'd pick a truly inferior tool that looks good on a Mac to a superior tool that looks inferior because of the UI?

This matters. The dbvis interface looks like a misclick waiting to happen. I seriously prefer using plain psql over tools with that much noise. If it doesn't improve visibility, it can GTFO.

Seriously, I have access to all the fancy features already. I need a tool that will make the usual stuff - table introspection, mostly - easier and more pleasant. If I need to export some stuff, nine times out of ten I'll do it in Python anyway.

dbvis is fine. It’s not eye candy, but it’s the only tool which gets the job done uniformly for any database you may need to connect to.

No, he's saying that well-executed native UI has a high weight for him when calculating which tool is inferior.

There is a config to change the number of lines, I changed it to 2 because I want more space (the default is 1 line and looks similar with DBBeaver or Navicat). see here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/niw2unpaqfwy7d4/Screen%20Shot%2020...

When you say feature-rich I hear cluttered. I don't want a tool that does everything, there's the cli for that. I want a tool to help me visualize things and build queries and sub-queries.

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