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This is a great primer on car hacking, but in my opinion it focuses a lot on the "physical layer". My bet would be that the future is going to be based in things like what Comma.ai is building upon what the book describes.

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Wait. People keep mentioning Comma.AI. Didn't they die, after failing to go all Uber on transportation safety, followed by the founder throwing a tantrum?

I also thought they were going to die but they kept on and have been contributing a lot to the pool of public knowledge about these things.

In particular, their opendbc repo, the stripped down version of Android and the cabana sniffing tool.

They are still around developing electronics or products for specific models of autos. Is their goal to provide a low-end device that will do automatic driving (at what level)? https://comma.ai/ Edit: spelling

it looks like they're targeting the hobbyist market -- the couple hundred people worldwide who want to roll their own self-driving car.

I thought they had just moved their ops to China because there were less regulations?

If you think we are dead you clearly don't follow us on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/comma_ai

Glad to see you guys are still kicking, I have a friend that follows you and says you're doing really cool work.

go non profit and create "open source vehicle" certification and lobby in local communities to ban autonomous driving of cars in their communities unless they have the cert.,

> the future is going to be based in things like what Comma.ai is building upon what the book describes.

As a native English speaker I'm not sure I understand what you've said there.

Yeah that's a pretty nested sentence:

> (The future) (is going to be) (based in (things like (what (Comma.ai) (is building upon) (what (the book) (describes)))))

I interpreted it to mean:

> The future will have many products similar to those made by the company Comma.ai. Comma.ai creates technology on top of the hardware described by this book.

It's so badly nested that even with parentheses it's hard to follow. Here's a version with indentation, which is marginally better. (This sort of thing is what the concept of cyclomatic complexity was invented to prevent.)

  (The future)
  (is going to be)
  (based in
    (things like
      (what
        (Comma.ai)
        (is building upon)
        (what
          (the book)
          (describes)
        )
      )
    )
  )

I’m not a native English speaker Yes, the writing was horrible, sorry for that. I could do better.

I am also a non-native english speaker(I am greek) but I immediately understood your sentence. I didnt even have to think about it! So don't feel bad!

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