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Comment by sevenfive | Hacker News Reader

A job is not (just) a privilege.

A job in an intelligence organization requiring a high level security clearance IS a privilege. As a leader in an organization I worked for used to say, "You earn your place here every day."

And plenty of naturalized citizens have earned their place.

Yeah, that's inspiring and all, but if you have a domestic and a naturalized candidate for the job who are both equally qualified, and the naturalized one has a 10% higher chance of being turned, just go with domestic right? Might not be "fair" to the naturalized candidate who worked hard to get where he was but fairness is not always the priority.

Reminds me of the diversity debate at Google where google jobs are talked about like some kind of award or trophy of excellence and not just selling your labor to Google

Yeah, that's a super plan and all. Doesn't work that way. And all foreign contact risks are quantitatively evaluated, for naturalized and US-born individuals.

Well the grandparent disagrees with those evaluations. I have no opinion.

My point is, there's a difference between deserving a job the most and being the best candidate for it. Whether someone has "earned" a job on a moral level should not be the only factor in hiring them. I am also surprised you decided to take your supervisor's motivational comment so literally.

He was the CO. And we don't "motivate."

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