If your Linux systems are running a normal Linux
distribution, go update your kernel. They should
all have the updates in them already.
I use Linux Mint and have not seen any recent kernel updates.Which kernel version is considered safe?
If your Linux systems are running a normal Linux
distribution, go update your kernel. They should
all have the updates in them already.
I use Linux Mint and have not seen any recent kernel updates.Which kernel version is considered safe?
"Ubuntu users of the 64-bit x86 architecture (aka, amd64) can expect updated kernels by the original January 9, 2018 coordinated release date, and sooner if possible."
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/01/04/ubuntu-updates-for-th...
For servers running Ubuntu, what is the risk, as long as my services don't run arbitrary user uploaded executables? As far as I can tell it is that a different remote code execution exploit can now read the entire memory, possibly leaking secrets. Assuming we have a kernel update in the next few days, I would need to install it immediately and rotate passwords and keys. Should I revoke TLS certs? Is that paranoid?
This won't stop the memory from being accessed, but it has a better chance of stopping things that can exploit the bug(s) in the first place.
Revoking TLS certs is probably a little bit on the side of paranoia.
I think you're on the right track -- just watch for the kernel update, and rotate passwords plus keys if it's not a hassle.
He is right, though. It would take two vulnerabilities to pwn him: one allowing remote code execution and then another (Spectre/Meltdown) to gain access to privileged data that shouldn’t be available in that context.
Too many machines put on too many hats. A single (physical) “secure” server should do as little as possible and run as small a codebase as possible. And never run - sandboxes or otherwise - code that isn’t authorized.
We seem to be forgetting that in all this. If you only run code you trust, you are safe. This can only happen if you run in trusted code on your machine. We’ve taken running untrustworthy code in a “sandboxed” environment to mean “not running untrusted code, when it’s totally not the case.
Of course, if an attacker uses a remote execution vulnerability to get into the box with user-constrained permissions, this can be used to read guest memory without concern for user limitation, so in that way it's a long-term pernicious threat that will make local exploitation significantly easier, and security-conscious organizations will still opt to use it despite the fact that they don't run untrusted code. Also, since this would allow them to read all memory in the guest, if you have sensitive stuff like database credentials coming into memory, they could be sniffed without requiring further exploitation.
Also, consider that at present, PTI is disabled by default for AMD chips, based on AMD's assurances that Meltdown does not affect them. If you're running in the cloud and your host is AMD-based, you don't need PTI in either the guest or the host.
If you're not aware Linux Mint turns off kernel security updates _off_, you need to check by hand.
If you must use desktop Linux, I guess I'll be recommending Ubuntu from now on. In my testing Mint and Ubuntu both work pretty well out of the box on lots of different hardware configurations unlike other distros. But learning this really tips the scale, Ubuntu or bust.
> However there are lots of systems out there that are not running “normal” Linux distributions for various reasons (rumor has it that it is way more than the “traditional” corporate distros). They rely on the LTS kernel updates, or the normal stable kernel updates, or they are in-house franken-kernels. For those people here’s the status of what is going on regarding all of this mess in the upstream kernels you can use.
Mint is one of those.