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The iphone 6+ was not rigid enough to withstand bending during normal use.

The iphone 6s battery could not last more than 18 months of daily use. After that it would not provide a stable voltage, causing the phone to randomly shutdown. The "fix" was sneaking in a permanent throttle at 20, 40, 60% of normal performance to hide the problem.

The new keyboards in the recent Macbook Pro redesign are hyper-fragile to the point that Apple's own service technicians have trouble fixing keys and end up having to replace the entire thing.

The Mac line has a history of graphics card failures due to excessive heat from poor thermal design.

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It's not like Apple was perfect before and these QA issues are somehow something new.

- The keyboards on the old MacBook Pro models (back when were silver) were also terrible. The keys kept falling off mine.

- MacBook graphics glitches also go way back (they even had a recall back in... 2010?). Several macOS releases had an issue where the screen was garbled when you got back from sleep.

- They've had tons of little USB issues, especially related to audio.

- My 2015 model has an issue where sometimes coming back from sleep, the internal keyboard no longer works. Everything is fine except no keyboard input.

(Etc.)

There were GPU issues with 2011 MBP machines. There was a class action lawsuit. I had to bake mine (well, the logic board) in the oven for 7 minutes. Plus i forgot to remove the speaker which melted so that cost another $15 to replace and was an overall unpleasant experience.

"The new keyboards in the recent Macbook Pro redesign are hyper-fragile"

The new keyboards are not fragile in my experience. I'd say that they're probably more robust than the old keyboards in terms of standing up to normal use.

The issue is that they are very difficult to service. You can't easily remove the keys to clean out debris etc like you could with the old version, which could be a problem if they accumulate dust and grime underneath the keycaps.

the issue is the amount of dirt it takes to cause issues is extremely small. i've seen machines that were only used on a desk in a clean work space, and never even removed from that desk develop issues within a few months. meanwhile, i've seen previous gen models that were incredibly grimy and used outdoors with no issues. it's a problem that's ONLY effecting apple keyboards right now and that's pathetic

I know what you mean. I occasionally get crumbs and who-knows-what jamming up my keys, but so far it's always been quick to resolve by either mashing on the key for a bit or blowing some air into it.

I do worry about what they'll be like after a few years of use, however. What if stuff keeps accumulating under there, with no easy way to clean it out?

Lots of people are having issues with the screens of the new retina macbook pros - myself included. Basically smudging off the screen.

If you are talking about the 2014/2015 MB pro, go to an applestore to get it replaced for free while its in an extended warranty period.

The new keyboard isn't "hyper fragile" -- it's pretty great.

Oh goodness, tell me your typing secret! I've already broken several keys and it sounds like I'm trying to kill someone when I type

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