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VIA bought Centaur, so you can argue that, tenuously. VIA is a Taiwanese company. Some people insist that being Taiwanese is being Chinese.

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Even granting the considerable stretch that the VIA acquisition somehow renders part of Austin "within China" (I'm reminded here of the Babylon 5 episode "Day of the Dead"), I have my doubts that they'd throw away all pre-acquisition IP just to be able to make this claim. I guess they might have done so regardless to develop something with a newer workflow (e.g. for better verification), but my understanding is that it's not unusual to ship ~20-year-old HDL cores (e.g. UARTs) that are just synthesized with different gate libraries.

> I have my doubts that they'd throw away all pre-acquisition IP just to be able to make this claim

China doesn't seem to be above claiming that they "domestically developed" technology that they really acquired from foreigners. An example I'm aware if is China's "home grown" 3G cellular protocol called TD-SCDMA. It was really a failed European standards proposal from Siemens, but passed off as an indigenous Chinese development for prestige reasons.

See https://www.samizdata.net/2012/06/here-is-the-rac/

But if you go back far enough, that tech actually came from Cyrix, an American company. I highly doubt they rewrote everything.

Taiwan insist it's Chinese. Its government claims to be the rightful government of the whole of China.

The People's Republic of China and the Republic of China both agree there is a single China which includes Taiwan. They differ over who should govern it.

The new current Taiwanese administration has not confirm that the 1992 Consensus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Consensus

The Chinese government has been engaging in some saber rattling because of that.

Not all Taiwanese are pro republic of China. There is a huge split in Taiwan between mainlanders (post 1949) and natives (also descended from the mainland, just pre 1949).

Hans started moving to Taiwan in the 1600s, then you had that big influx as the Chinese Revolution wound down.

There's also Native Taiwanese - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_peoples, they even make up about 2% of the population, I think they all want the Hans to pickup and leave their lands.

The native natives are more aligned with the KMT (ok, super aligned). The Hans before 1949 are mostly from Fujian, who are not known for being the most patriotic (and indeed, became dominant in overseas Chinese communities in SE Asia, NYC, and so on...). Post 1949 was the rich Chinese and KMT officials from everywhere escaping the communists, who also own much of the island's economy and want closer ties to China (so they can make more money).

The Republic of China probably agrees partly because waiving their territorial claims could trigger military action through China's Anti-Secession Law.

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