The article does disagree with that view.
>As Al Jazeera reported last year, “Inflammatory speech posted in the Hebrew language . . . has attracted much less attention from the Israeli authorities and Facebook. One study found that ‘122,000 users directly called for violence with words like ‘murder’, ‘kill’, or ‘burn.’ Arabs were the No 1 recipients of hateful comments. Yet there appears to be little effort by Facebook to censor any of that.”
Have you noticed comments like this? Have you ever seen them deleted or Israeli accounts suspended for hateful language?
Hint: A terrorist sponsor.
AJ has some of the best reporting about, but attacking the messenger and not the message is far easier isn’t it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFWVkSU3ic4
> but attacking the messenger
They are not a messenger but are full party to praising those who would proudly kill children. I know the US has killed children in conflicts, but the US isn't proud of it, they don't celebrate it.
> Others see the terrorists as freedom fighting
No. This is false. No one sees terrorists as freedom fighting, except for those who support them.
A terrorist is a terrorist. Period. Calling them freedom fighters is utterly repulsive, and whitewashing things like "killing a 4 year old girl by smashing her skull against the rocks with the butt of his rifle." Yes, that is the loathsome creature who AJ celebrated.
Tell me how that is freedom fighting? I challenge you - tell me, exactly how that is freedom fighting. I await your answer.
Yes, Palestinians think freedom is worth fighting for. That man didn’t help his cause. This is not related to the issue though is it? AJ cover issues in the region better than many news orgs.
And I guess that includes killing 4 year old girls?
And that's it? That's your feeble defense? "That man didn’t help his cause." No condemnation, no, "this is not what Palestinian are."
But of course you don't, because you can't, because this is the kind of offal Palestinians value. People who kill 4 year olds and rejoice in it.
If only this was some sort of one-off, that it was not representative, that it was just "didn't help his cause". But it's not, this is the kind of behavior Palestinians delight in. For example that guy who stabbed a young girl to death in her bed. Did they condemn that, or did they celebrate that?
You know the answer very well.
> This is not related to the issue though is it?
Of course is it. If AJ is going to throw that human excrement a birthday party then that are almost as loathsome as he is.
No one should ever read them again, that have removed themself from civilized life. Anything they say should be assumed false unless otherwise proven.
> AJ cover issues in the region better than many news orgs.
Only if by better you mean "praising and valuing terrorism".
If you are a Palestinian that it must suck to know you are by extension part of a group that is this horrible. I know very well not all Palestinians are this bad. Unfortunately the majority are. The fact that you don't condemn, and you even try to defend, them disturbs me though....
A constructive approach is needed by both sides, not more of the same. You are desperate for a finger pointing fight and seem to be hoping to vilify me for being Palestinian. Why?
I made absolutely no mention of Israel at all.
> ie story isn’t valid as it’s from AJ
Correct. You need another source. By supporting a murderer AJ has removed themself from civilized discourse.
> be hoping to vilify me for being Palestinian. Why?
Hoping to? Dude, you refused to condemn someone who killed a 4 year old by bashing her head in!!
What is wrong with you?
(If you refuse to condemn that, I guess it makes sense you would support AJ.)
Before I say another word to you I want to hear an unequivocal condemnation of that terrorist, and an unequivocal condemnation of AJ for throwing him a birthday party.
If you refuse to do that you have removed yourself from the realm of civilized people and I want nothing to do with you.
> I made absolutely no mention of Israel at all.
I refer to the thread as a whole, not just comments to me.
You’re obsessed with a bad guy who did bad things that is irrelevant to the thread, so of course I don’t join your soirée into the irrelevant (my race? Really?).
You keep arguing about the messenger, not the message. Dispute the message with a contrary link, not an attack on the messenger. There is a term for this style of argument.
There are very few cases where this doesn't provide a clear answer. (Although occasionally politicians get it wrong--the USS Cole bombing was not terrorism.)
Well, if you bury your head in the sand on a hot summer afternoon and proceed to claim its night, it's hard to take further claims seriously.
I will agree that there is extremists on both ends that just furthers their own political/economic interests and muddies the water.
...but my analysis of the conflict over there is that it is much deeper than politics or economics, spanning millenias of beef.
I think there must be a premise hidden somewhere behind that expletive.
What is the nature of the sentence between the quotation marks? Is that a hypothetical counterargument of someone who is misrepresenting (or misunderstanding) what Israeli soldiers are doing? Or is it supposed to be an accurate account of what Israeli soldiers are doing, and you mean to say that people wrongly think you agree with what the soldiers are doing?
Those are just some suggestions if you are looking for peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF30AjvvusI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19jRZ2BIFqc
I suspect if Palestinians had F-16s and Apache gunships available they, too, would avoid street battles.
"Give me a break"? Isn't what you described exactly what happens?
I do have a lingering hope, given the number of organizations fighting asymmetric warfare like the IRA, FARC have now turned to non violent political representation, that we might see some change.
I condemn acts of terrorism there is simply nothing that justifies the murder of innocent lives, period.
Doesn't seem to me a very sound stance, as you can do very evil or wrong things while doing what you believe is just.
I agree with the "asymmetric warfare" definition (which by the way implies conventional warfare from one of the two sides); however you should not forget that is one of the two parties that is illegally occupying, controlling and expropriating a good portion of the other's territory.
If you see two people fighting in the street,the fact that one has illegally appropriated (i.e. stolen) something from the other might give you a better idea of what's going on.
I'm not denying Palestines their right to freedom. I'm not denying Israelis their right to exist.
All I've done is just depict the situation as it is. No judgement, no side taking.
North Korea does what it does to survive. South Korea does what it needs to do to the same.
> All I've done is just depict the situation as it is.
No, you didn't. You described the Israeli position as they made you believe it is, not as it really is.
A race to zero is what I’m after. It’s been/being done in other places, it can happen there.
What interests me are the consequences that follow from making a US corporation the global censor and arbiter, in the realm of communications, of other people's disputes.
The original article had zero factual content about the accounts that were suspended and presented no evidence that they were not suspended for completely valid reasons so I have no reason to think that they should not have been suspended.
Even with that being true, it is still interesting that people are both expecting Facebook to be a global censor, and then also criticizing them for the censorship decisions they make.
> Palestinians attacking locals
That attitude, in a nutshell, is a large part of the problem.
The Palestinians ARE the locals.
Once you accept the above, everything else starts to make sense.
Ignore this most obvious of facts, and then you start asking nonsensical questions like "why are they so touchy?" ,"why do they hate us?", "why are they so angry?", and "why aren't they content with living in a large open camp?"