Am I the only one that thinks these are useless? I got one last Xmas and stop using it after a month or so.
That is basically what you are saying here. We both agree, it will tell you the weather, your commute, and play some music. Those are the things you grew tired of, but many people have their entire homes wired to these devices (me included). I don't use them daily, I use them hourly at home. It runs my sprinklers, lawn mowers, vacuums, lights, alarms, timers, starts my car, on and on. You have to invest in things to get the most out of them.
Alexa hears: Mow the cat.
Because when anyone talks about "investing" in a wifi lawnmower, or any other consumer gadget, I think they're seriously misusing the word...
Getting used to the idea of home automation as investment, as opposed to just business automation is something that older folks are going to have to come to grips with. But, like, I have Hue lights at home, I have to be on my wifi network to control them (Hue Pro, not the Philips app, because I like my presets)--say I bought one of these and saved a couple minutes a day just doing that, what's that worth to me? Can I put a dollar amount on it? What's the ROI?
(I got one for Christmas, so I guess we'll see.)
But this is also why we as software developers are valued: our time creates capital in a way that many (most) other professions do not.
That said, I always dreamed of one, as a kid, who had to mow an acre. But as an adult, its clearly not the best option. Stop calling it an 'investment'.
By the way, why do you /have/ to mow 25 times per year? Is that an actual requirement of some sort or really a personal preference? I live in central Europe (Berlin), haven't mowed a single time this year. Doesn't look particularly classy but it's not a jungle either...
Perhaps I just need to grow a different kind of grass?
Imagine not having to chop wood for your fireplace. Wouldn't that be amazing, to save such time? The natural gas and or electricity company is going to learn something about your lifestyle.
Imagine if you could tap your smartphone and easily get a taxi. That seems like it could be extremely useful. But then the company is going to learn something about you.
Imagine ordering a pizza or other takeout and giving them a form of payment other than cash. That'd be super convenient, not having to only carry cash all the time and being able to order online. But then the company knows something about you, such as what food you like to order and when.
Imagine buying a car from Tesla or a dealer and getting it routinely serviced. Of course now they're going to know how many miles you put on it and they'll learn something about you from how you treat your vehicle, the condition of its interior, etc. The gas station and charging station too, is going to know how often you fill up. But geez it'd be amazing if we had automobiles.
Imagine if we had trains, airplanes and buses that could haul large numbers of people very efficiently. That'd be pretty cool, what a hassle it would save not having to walk or ride a horse for 1,000 km. Of course, then lots of companies and government agencies are probably going to learn something about you every time you purchase a bus ticket, every time you get on a plane.
Imagine going to the blacksmith, the store, or Amazon.com, and ordering cookware and not having to craft your own. What a staggering savings of time that would be. But then the blacksmith might learn something about your lifestyle.
I don't see much creepy about what the parent said. It's a concentrated form of the types of technological productivity gains you're using on a constant basis in modern life and throughout your day, and humans have been using since the beginning.
Nearly every single thing you touch on a daily basis that is made by people is conceptually similar to what the parent is doing in terms of boosting automation / productivity. From using a pencil you bought at Target to the drink you buy at the convenience store, you're doing the same thing, and they all involve some trade-off (most of which are entirely meaningless).
> But then the blacksmith might learn something about your lifestyle.
But once the blacksmith has sold me the pot, that's the end of the data-exchange. He doesn't receive a continual feed of data about my usage of the pot. Maybe I'll go back five years later to get the pot repaired; that'll be a surprise to him. Perhaps he'll ask how I broke it, and I can fib to him.
Home automation is a great convenience and time-saver. That's not the concern. The concern is that megacorps are in the loop and are monetizing our lives.
An Amazon Echo should in an ideal world be able to operate just fine on a LAN without an Internet connection, or with just a web-server front-end for the owner to use. Just like my wifi AP or my weather station.
Sprinklers - What on earth are you voice controlling for? Just get a box on a set schedule a couple days a week, set and forget. I haven't had to think about my sprinklers for months, what advantage would I get by manually controlling them with voice or non? My water bill is so low right now that even just telling it not to run when it has rained won't save enough to make the effort worth while, and there are better non-voice controlled mechanisms for doing that anyway.
Lawn Mower and Vaccum cleaner - There are two categories of these, either autonomous (e.g. roomba) or manual. Manual ones offer no advantage for voice control because you literally just have to press a button to turn on and off, and you can visually see when it's full. Autonomous ones have no use for voice control because the whole point is they are meant to be autonomous. The only advantage I can think of is getting an alert when they need to be emptied/cleaned but that's better served by push notifications not voice queries.
Starting your car - Yes I admit this can be useful if it's cold outside so you have heat ready to go (or AC if it's hot).
Alarms & Timers - I'll give this one even though our Echo has completely failed at both of these properly, or required multiple attempts to give it the right time (at which point it was easier to just enter the timer on the microwave or stove, which we end up doing anyway).
TV (one not mentioned) - Echo has completely failed in this regard. We bought Fire TVs largely for the integration but imho it's just a complete failure. Each app has specific ways to interact with it that isn't always intuitive, if you leave off the app you want to do things on it assumes you want to look things up on Amazon's app store (e.g. "Play Chopped" vs "Play Chopped On Hulu" do very different things), the lag time prevents rewinding to be useful (I can't just say rewind 20 seconds because it usually takes 10 seconds for it to fully go back, usually missing the part I was trying to rewind to. It just became such a hassle to use voice properly that it's so much faster and reliable to use the remote. Even just pausing and playing is quicker and easier with a remote (or your phone with a chromecast) than yelling at the echo.
Music and Podcasts (another not mentioned) - This is another not mentioned that we have had some success with, but you still have to be crazy specific when making queries that it requires more mental effort than just hitting things with your phones. For example "play christmas music" makes Alexa say we have no christmas music, but "Play Christmas Music On Pandora" works and does what we want (we don't care what app is playing christmas music, we just wanted SOME type of christmas music).
Podcasts also kind of suck because its all app dependent. I can't just say "Play Johnny's house" (a local radio show) because Echo has no idea about it. I have to say "Play Johnny's house on I Heart Radio" before it works, and even then I can't give it a specific episode to play, it always plays the latest. So if I'm a day or two behind I can't just catch up.
Recipes (another not mentioned) - One great idea we had for it was to dictate recipes to us. We have never gotten this to work out while cooking and the best we have gotten was it to text a recipe to our phone, defeating the whole point.
tldr: Half of the things you mentioned make almost no sense with voice control vs the alternatives, the others are flaky enough or inconsistent enough that we (and many of our friends that have bought multiple echos) have failed to find a good use for them in the normal flow of daily life. For voice to be practical I don't want to do mental gymnastics to figure out the right way to word things and which apps I have to mention in order to have what I want to be done to be done. At that point I might as well pull out my phone or a remote and in 2-3 taps be done.
We got a regular Echo for the in-laws, and they absolutely love it, but mostly use it as a speaker. We got them a Spotify account as well, so my mother in law can just say 'Alexa, play Josh Groban' and it just works. They loved it so much we ordered them a tap as well so they can use it in the garden come spring.
So it all depends, personally I think $30 isn't bad even if you just use it as a wireless Spotify player, although you'll have to hook it up to good speakers.
So yes, it makes a significant difference in my life, as someone with ADD that struggles with these every day tasks. Maybe the delusional one is the person that thinks their particular perspective is the only one.