Sorry, I realize I was heavy handed in my reply and I've edited it slightly.

I feel I should rephrase - I personally believe the arguments as stated are largely tools of propaganda by pro-gun lobbies and it baffles me that this isn't obvious. (And again I'd be eager to see evidence that this is not the case and there is justification for conflating freedom with gun ownership).

I appreciate you taking the time to engage in this discussion.