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Firefox 57 gained a ton of good will from a lot of users

Let's not overstate things. Firefox 57 gained good will from some users. It also seriously annoyed others, both because of the loss of many useful extensions, and because the new version is horribly buggy and crashes all the time.

The one thing Mozilla still had going for them compared to Google or Microsoft was the emphasis on privacy and respecting the user, and yet I've read about several different cases in recent weeks where that trust has been undermined, this being the latest.

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>because the new version is horribly buggy and crashes all the time.

Really? I haven't experienced a single crash, and I was on nightlies before 57 was released, so I could try Quantum.

Yes, sadly. I can't remember the last time Firefox crashed on me prior to 57. I've lost count of the number of crashes/hangs since the update, but it's well into double figures by now. Whether it's Firefox itself or the handful of extensions I have installed, I can't tell for sure, but it's much worse here on a Windows box with more extensions installed than a Linux box with just a few. In any case, if the new runtime model is supposed to make things more robust then unfortunately my experience has been quite the opposite.

57 user on OpenBSD here. No extension installed (at least to my knowledge ;)), no crash to report. It has been a pretty smooth experience so far.

> the new version is horribly buggy and crashes all the time

That has not been my experience, so let's not overstate personal anecdotes as facts.

Please don't quote things out of context in a way that changes the meaning. What I actually wrote contrasted some people's good experience with others' bad experience. It wasn't a blanket statement as it appears when selectively quoted.

I happen to be an existence proof for the bad experience group, but a few seconds with your favourite search engine will readily confirm that I am not alone. I don't know what the ratio of lucky to unlucky users is, nor did I claim to.

I've been using Firefox 57 since the release, and had zero crashes.

I've seen firefox running on computers everywhere during meetings and presentations which I haven't seen for a long time.

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