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Oh fuck, just give me a decent keyboard on the MBP. Is that so much to ask?

I like the feel of the new keyboards but I've heard that they're much less reliable. (keys get stuck with the smallest of debris). And since Apple's obsessed with integrating everything now, you have to replace the entire assembly for a stuck key, which costs something like $500. And that's an absolutely ridiculous tradeoff and the epitome of "form over function"

I don't have one but my wife's new laptop has the keyboard. I really hope we don't have to deal with that.

Friend with a 15" MBP just went through it this week. Shift key got stuck in the down position.

He took it to an authorized service center and the solution was to replace the entire top case assembly. That includes the case, keyboard, touchbar, trackpad, battery, and I'm not sure what else.

It's out of stock on PowerBookMedic, but their price on this part is $800. Eight. Hundred. Dollars. For a single broken key. This is insane.

I have a 13" version and I'm very concerned. I've got Apple Care but I'm careful with my laptops and I expect them to last more than 3 years.

http://www.powerbookmedic.com/MacBook-Pro-15-w--Touch-Bar-To...

We got AppleCare for exactly this reason. But I'm not even sure it's covered.

Her past laptop was $1,100 (2010 MacBook Air) and lasted 7 years. If this one ($1,500) doesn't last that long, it'll be a waste of money.

Similar boat, my previous laptop was a 2011 MacBook Air, the one before that I think was 2006.

FWIW my friend's replacement was covered. Not sure how much of that is the shop's judgement on "well you shouldn't have gotten dust in it."

Can confirm, I got a new MBP 15" about 6 months ago through work. The right side of the space bar doesn't work and the 'a' and 's' key alternate in not working without having to slam my finger into them. Also the keyboard is so obnoxiously loud that it can be genuinely annoying to others in the same room (i.e., the girlfriend).

And let's not even get into the "Touch Bar". Just stay away.

i really like the new mbp keyboard

I assume you aren't kidding and I'm curious to hear why you like it, as I personally do not like it and its very unpopular.

I find it disheartening that people here who I expect to have a wider view of commentary by online folks would think that just because there are some complaints that it's an actual issue.

I also have a 2016 MBP with tb and it's the best hardware I've ever used (and that covers hardware since the Apple ][). The TB is very innovative and handy and the keyboard is pretty good.

People who don't have issues just don't post - the few that do are not a representative sample.

So do I. Not sure why people dislike it so much.

and good I/O ports. I can't hook these new things up to a TV or projector without a fleet of adaptors.

Exactly. A "Pro" laptop for use by "Pro"fessionals needs I/O like gig-e, USB3, USBC, HDMI, Thunderbolt, SD reader and an excellent DAC for the headphone jack. And I still miss the 17" macbook pro :(

I miss the days where there was a separate line for consumers/professionals. A lineup of slightly thicker laptops with I/O for days and a lineup of thin-light for students and the light would be ideal.

But instead we'll get touchbar 2.0. yee yee.

I still do all my work on a 17" MBP. It's 6 years old now, and I fear the day I will need to replace it.

Man the 17" pro was like a table lol. It was a beast though, the screen at the time was top notch

I find ironic that I need to use Microsoft ergonomic keyboards, because Apple don't do them anymore.

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