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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

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I'll take "Apocryphal Socrates Quotes" for $500 Alex

In a sense all Socrates quotes are apocryphal.

Bill & Ted taught me it's pronounced 'Soh-Crates'.

And even he hated nerds.

You don’t even need to go back to Ancient Greece. Lazy journalists were kicking this old can, but about Generation X, during the ‘90s.

The point about the quote going back to the ancient Greeks is to show it is an eternal argument.

Except the quote does not originate from the ancient Greeks that is.

Isn’t it true that when something happened long ago, it doesn’t follow that it happened continuously since, even if it happened recently as well?

I read a lot of Plato in school, and even learned to read in Ancient Greek. It’s often funnier in Greek than in most translations.

I have done Ancient Greek as well, but never enjoyed it and was bad at it.

It is true it does not follow. What the quote implies it is a very old issue.

There was a book I read about "are parents coddling their kids too much" and whatno, I forget the title...

They spoke about all the concepts of "hellicopter parenting", "kids being spoiled nowadays" etc. Then they go on to mention that literally every. single. generation that ever was written about since as far back as our records hold, was written about in the same way!

Yes, that's right, EVERY SINGLE GENERATION, since as far back as we have reporting, has been spoiled rotten, has no respect for elders, is entitled, and so on.

Every generation thinks they invented sex and drugs, and theirs was the last good generation.

You know nothing.

It's a quote from Socrates.

It has been attributes to Plato, but check my link in the sibling comment.

Dude, he is quoting.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehaving-childre...

And I'm quoting (apocryphal) Socrates :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_that_I_know_nothing

I would call that creative quoting.

And we can't have creativity being shown here, no sir!

and here I was thinking you were quoting RR Martin's Ygritte.

It's a quote from a Greek dude nearly 2300 years ago.

It's not. It's a made-up quotation from 100+ years ago, attributed to the Greek dude.

That said, the Greek dude had made some very astute observations of his own, that hold very well today. So it's not like "23 centuries" ago necessarily means an idea is stale or anything.

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